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Old 05-25-2007, 01:16 AM
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What I found surprising is that, even before the illegal blow, Cole was covering up and not doing much on the ground in the 2nd round. If he wasen't burying his head, Joe probably wouldn't have hit him in the back of the head. Now granted, Joe should have controlled his strikes better, but it's worth taking into consideration. A fighter places himself at risk of taking a blow to the back of the head if the fighter stays in that position.
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Old 05-25-2007, 01:38 AM
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What I found surprising is that, even before the illegal blow, Cole was covering up and not doing much on the ground in the 2nd round. If he wasen't burying his head, Joe probably wouldn't have hit him in the back of the head. Now granted, Joe should have controlled his strikes better, but it's worth taking into consideration. A fighter places himself at risk of taking a blow to the back of the head if the fighter stays in that position.
It looked to like Cole was using the back of his head to keep Louzon from landing strikes. His face was underneith his body, his hands were covering up the sides of his head and he kept turning the back of his head to where Joe was landing punches.
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Old 05-25-2007, 04:41 AM
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Fighters will always say they want to continue. That's why the ref should give them a minute with their cornermen who know them well enough to decide if they're okay to continue.
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most times i'd say rule it either a NC or a DQ, depending on the malice of the illegal blow. lauzon clearly did that accidentally, so his would be a NC while when frank shamrock did it, he was trying to save face so his is a DQ. i understand that during a tournament like TUF a NC is a real problem, so i don't know
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He should've just stopped and taken the win. Nothing is worth the risk he put on himself. He showed a lot of heart though, and I'll bet he gets a fight on the finale
Dana respects what the kid did. You'll definitely see him again.
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Since it is for a contract with UFC, why not declare it a "no contest" and then have them fight again after the other 3 semifinal matches? That gives Cole time to recover and then have a fair shot to win.
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Cole was gonna lose anyway by GNP or decision.Its a shame that happened but Lauzon was overpowering him. I dont like DQ's.They normal get 5 min recovery. I think if it wasnt intentional and the other fighter bails then it should be a no contest cuz Lauzon was smacking the shit out of him it wouldnt have been fair to lose from a first offense
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The part that I hate was that Cole was doing well and you could tell that he was not the same fighter after the elbow. Lauzon did say sorry, but an illegal blow changed the course of the fight.

I agree, sitting back and watching it is easy to say let them go back in. I do know that some fighters use it as an excuse to not continue. Cole looked lost at the end of the fight. It was a shame to see him lose that way.

I really can't see how that blow changed the course of the fight. Cole was clearly losing and Lauzon was gaining momentum as time went on. When the illegal blow came Lauzon was on his back and Cole had his face buried in his chest. The only way Cole was defending himself was by giving the back of head. It would've been total Bullshit if Miller won that fight.
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The thing that sucks is that if Cole asked for more time they would have called it after 2 or 3 minutes I think he would have been better, but I don't know he might have a concuisson. Joe would have won
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Rules are rules. I wanted joe to win the fight. But For Cole to lose they way he did sucked..... he had heart to cont. hats off to him...But Dana "you call him a asshole" White, told him how it is...UFC is a big deal and so is the contract...you do a illegal move u should be punished! For Joe, shit happens.
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