Stopping a fight due to illegal blow to head - Page 2

jbart321 · #11 (**permalink**) 05-24-2007, 11:33 PM

Cole's a tough kid and showed heart but put himself in a bad position. He was still woozy when he came back in. Lauzon didn't mean it, I'm sure but he should have more awareness in the ring so things like that don't happen. A DQ should have been given out regardless.

sandywh · #12 (**permalink**) 05-24-2007, 11:46 PM

Louzon is a heck of a fighter. He was warned repeatedly about the back of the head. I don't the DQ was in order, but Miller should have taken more time. Since it was an "exhibition" Dana should have stepped in and called it a no contest and had the two fight again later. Just watching that 1st round, it had all the makings of a great war. I hope these two get a chance at each other down the road.

IMO - Louzon is ready made for the fianls, but I beleive in time Cole will be near the top of the 155 division.

YukonJordan · #13 (**permalink**) 05-24-2007, 11:47 PM

Cole was going to lose the fight regardless so I think this works out the best for the UFC. I can almost guarantee we are going to see cole and joe fight on a PPV at some point and that blow will be the focus of the hype.

Krazikarl · #14 (**permalink**) 05-24-2007, 11:59 PM

Exhibitions are still liable to NSAC rules if they are in Nevada. Notice that they still have the NSAC officials all around the arena. Dana cant just step in and do what he wants. If you read the rules, you will see that they say that they apply to official matches and exhibitions as well. I think that the only reason they are called exhibitions is because the results arent shown live (which they have to be if requested in an official fight).

Lauzon also only got warned once that I heard. Thats not a "repeated" warning, which is key because if he had been warned verbally more than a few times it would be much more likely to have been scored as a DQ if it came to that I think.

leedogg900 · #15 (**permalink**) 05-25-2007, 12:13 AM

i think if the elbow didnt hit him in the back of the head the fight wouldnt have gone any differently, lauzon woulda won still maybe by decision but he woulda won i think, he already won the first round and he was winnin the 2nd round until that point, and even with the 1 point taken away, the round woulda been a draw. so lauzon woulda won by decision, anything can happen yes but thats the way the fight was going anyways

Palma · #16 (**permalink**) 05-25-2007, 12:15 AM

I think Cole exagerated his injury not to mention he kept using the back of his head to defend blows. Either way Joe was going to win.

Can someone move this thread to the TUF section and add spoiler in the title?

Diegonightmare · #17 (**permalink**) 05-25-2007, 12:18 AM

Plus Cole did upkick while Joe was on the ground. Granted it didn't significantly alter the outcome of the fight, like the elbow potentially did, but a foul is a foul.

Diegonightmare · #18 (**permalink**) 05-25-2007, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Palma Wrestler

Can someone move this thread to the TUF section and add spoiler in the title?

Word....

Palma · #19 (**permalink**) 05-25-2007, 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Diegonightmare

Word....

If I didn't go to my mom's house to watch the fight on satelite to catch the east coast feed I'd be really pissed about reading the outcome.

sandywh · #20 (**permalink**) 05-25-2007, 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Krazikarl

Exhibitions are still liable to NSAC rules if they are in Nevada. Notice that they still have the NSAC officials all around the arena. Dana cant just step in and do what he wants. If you read the rules, you will see that they say that they apply to official matches and exhibitions as well. I think that the only reason they are called exhibitions is because the results arent shown live (which they have to be if requested in an official fight).

Lauzon also only got warned once that I heard. Thats not a "repeated" warning, which is key because if he had been warned verbally more than a few times it would be much more likely to have been scored as a DQ if it came to that I think.

1) The fight can be ruled a "No Contest" in the event of any illegal blow. There was a fight last year (in Las Vegas) (not UFC) that was ruled a No Contest with less than a minute to go in the fight.
2) They are also exhibitions because of the 2 rounds and a sudden death.
3) NSAC are there to score the fight, just like they would for real, for the effect.
4) A fighter / doctor / judge does not need to be consulted if the official in the ring make the call. Mario did not have to say anything to Cole, or even call the doctor up. If was inclined to do so, he could call the fight without ever speaking to anyone.
5) He was warned in the first and I heard him again in the first tie up on the ground in the 2nd.