Lets just keep it at ... uhhh?

[helipoison]

Originally Posted by jbart321

BJ isn't a good coach. He is very Shamrock like in that aspect. Like Ken he is only there for one reason, himself. I don't like BJ and I love that his team has lost every fight so far. Regardless of talent coaching can play a role in a fights outcome. Goes to show BJ is no coach.

Many people pointed this out prior to the airing of the show. Now the question is how long before his team turns on him. That will make for some great TV !

[AJL416AZ]

Originally Posted by Afro Samurai

1. Gray Manyard - because of his wrestling background, because he trains with team quest, and because he is undefeated
2. Nate Diaz - because of his BJJ background, because he can strike, but he has been sub'd and doesnt have great takedown D
3. Corey Hill - because of his wrestling background, because of his height, because of his striking
4. Manny G - because of his judo and strength
5. Joe Lauzon - because of his striking and BJJ

i think Wiman should be here. hes experienced and is generally a tough kid, but i dont know how good his ground game is since Fisher took him down a few times.

and Lauzon is better than Hill, and probably has better jits then Diaz. look Joe up on youtube, the kid has sick jits, hes incredibly fluid and explosive.

i think Hill wont make it past and BJJ or ground guy he has to fight. if Hill really didnt have a gym before this, then that means he is just now learning how to use any striking training he might have in MMA, changing his strategies, footwork, etc. plus, it also means he has virtually no submission training, and if you are tall and lanky like Hill, its harder to defend takedowns no matter how talented a wrestler you are.

[Afro]

Originally Posted by AJL416AZ

i think Wiman should be here. hes experienced and is generally a tough kid, but i dont know how good his ground game is since Fisher took him down a few times.

and Lauzon is better than Hill, and probably has better jits then Diaz. look Joe up on youtube, the kid has sick jits, hes incredibly fluid and explosive.

i think Hill wont make it past and BJJ or ground guy he has to fight. if Hill really didnt have a gym before this, then that means he is just now learning how to use any striking training he might have in MMA, changing his strategies, footwork, etc. plus, it also means he has virtually no submission training, and if you are tall and lanky like Hill, its harder to defend takedowns no matter how talented a wrestler you are.

all very true, its hard doin a Top 5 amongst those guys though and ya I felt Wiman should get some dues but didnt know where to put him in my opinion cuz he is damn good too especially on his feet but ya there def the best 6 and I think Gray is #1 regardless though.

[The Sundance Kid]

I see atleast 3 of these guys being on TOP Ten list for the UFC's LW division within the next year or so.

[Kimuras"R"Us]

Originally Posted by AJL416AZ

i think Wiman should be here. hes experienced and is generally a tough kid, but i dont know how good his ground game is since Fisher took him down a few times.

and Lauzon is better than Hill, and probably has better jits then Diaz. look Joe up on youtube, the kid has sick jits, hes incredibly fluid and explosive.

i think Hill wont make it past and BJJ or ground guy he has to fight. if Hill really didnt have a gym before this, then that means he is just now learning how to use any striking training he might have in MMA, changing his strategies, footwork, etc. plus, it also means he has virtually no submission training, and if you are tall and lanky like Hill, its harder to defend takedowns no matter how talented a wrestler you are.

Totally agree with you. Don't know how Corey is gonna be on the ground... with no experience that's a LOT of arms and legs flailing around to grab. Rep'd

[blah]

i think penn's best are wiman and lauzon. i don't think pulver will sweep, since someone has to fight weems, and barring penn's worst guy fighting weems, i think weems will get beat. pulver should win by a lot though

[koolaidx]

Originally Posted by helipoison

Many people pointed this out prior to the airing of the show. Now the question is how long before his team turns on him. That will make for some great TV !

BJ's team will not turn on him. He just needs to get control which will happen before long. His best guys are yet to come and my instinct tells me Jens is gonna make Weems fight Gray soon.

[chuteboxechamp]

All B.J needs is one guy to get through the first round, remember if one guy gets through and wins it all then B.Js team won, the first round is only the first round.

my 3 picks
1. Manny Gamburyan-most dominating win so far, and the guys freakin jacked
2.Nate Diaz-This kid looked impressive against a more experienced fighter, and his brother is a beast
3. Joe Lauzon- He beat Pulver.

[Clint]

I was honestly surprised at how many people on the first episode wanted to be on BJ's team for this reason. Sure BJ is the more well rounded fighter but Jens seems like the all around better coach.