Sick of Rampage

[CapCee]

Originally Posted by roaddawg

Dan Henderson's team got their asses kicked by Bispings but that didnt effect the end result when they met in the octagon. Say what you like about Page but his coaching abilities has little to nothing to do with his ability to knock Rashads ass out quicker than Machida did.

Rashad is a class act if you think hes any different from the same guy who told Griffin to suck his dick in the middle of the fight. If he had the chance I bet he would have tried the same antics against Machida (oops he tried and got KTFO)

rd

Rashad took some hard shots from Forrest and was trying to do something to show himself and Forrest that it would take a lot more to KO him. Typical Rashad mind games. And I'm not 100% sure that grabbing your johnson and blowing a kiss is an all out invite for another guy to deepthroat you. Just sounds like a die-hard Rampage fan swinging for the fences to defend a man who has embarrassed himself thoroughly

[roaddawg]

Originally Posted by CapCee

Rashad took some hard shots from Forrest and was trying to do something to show himself and Forrest that it would take a lot more to KO him. Typical Rashad mind games. And I'm not 100% sure that grabbing your johnson and blowing a kiss is an all out invite for another guy to deepthroat you. Just sounds like a die-hard Rampage fan swinging for the fences to defend a man who has embarrassed himself thoroughly

And then you have those who seek any and every opportunity available to take a shot at Page. The coaches on TUF can only do so much. Once their fighters get in the Octagon they are pretty much on their own. Now maybe you have seen something different but to me Page's team is green and hard headed.

Rashad's team on the other hand are more experienced and take instructions well from their coaches.

Back on Rashad:
I like how you're quick to dismiss Rashads antics. Move past the nut grab since you didnt think that was embarrasing. How about Rashad getting in Rampage's face after his win against Jardine. Page didn't even get 5 minutes to enjoy his victory.

YouTube - UFC 107 Quintin "Rampage" Jackson vs Rashad "Sugar" Evans Staredown

Now im certainly not saying Page is an angel but what I am saying is Rashad is no better. Don't let that fake ass smile and nipple tweak fool you.

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[Flou]

Originally Posted by roaddawg

Dan Henderson's team got their asses kicked by Bispings but that didnt effect the end result when they met in the octagon. Say what you like about Page but his coaching abilities has little to nothing to do with his ability to knock Rashads ass out quicker than Machida did.

Rashad is a class act if you think hes any different from the same guy who told Griffin to suck his dick in the middle of the fight. If he had the chance I bet he would have tried the same antics against Machida (oops he tried and got KTFO)

rd

Team Hendersson wasn't failing as miserably as Team Rampage and Hendo surely wasn't taking the losses as badly as Rampage is. I'm not questioning Rampage's fighting abilities, I'm questioning his mental strength which seems to be crumbling really easily during this season of TUF.

At which point was I saying that Rashad is a class act? Don't make this into a Rampage vs Rashad argument when I'm not a fan of either "gentleman".

[thefirm0]

i'm just wondering if rashad's team sweeps the opening round will rampage leave the show? i know for sure none of rashad's guys are going to want to train with rampage. especially after all the shit he's talked about every one of them.

[roaddawg]

Originally Posted by Flou

Team Hendersson wasn't failing as miserably as Team Rampage and Hendo surely wasn't taking the losses as badly as Rampage is. I'm not questioning Rampage's fighting abilities, I'm questioning his mental strength which seems to be crumbling really easily during this season of TUF.

At which point was I saying that Rashad is a class act? Don't make this into a Rampage vs Rashad argument when I'm not a fan of either "gentleman".

Known fact: He doesn't like to lose. He and Dana have said this on TUF countless times (call it pride). As far as his mental state you can obviously tell he really doesn't want to be there but when money calls you do what you gotta do especially when you have mouths to feed.

Right now like others have mentioned hes more focused on events taking place outside of the UFC. Maybe this is one of the reasons behind his retirement.

Side Note:
You can't go around bashing fighters and then be surprised at the lash back. It comes with the territory.


rd

[FFFRpickup]

I think everyone is reading too much from the show. Too critical of Rampage. He is NOT a coach and doesn't claim to be. The show focuses on the Coaches instead of fighters. In Rampage's defence. Wes Sims is untrainable. He has been around the block with little to no improvement in YEARS. The last fight. Now for the last guy I beleive hsi name was Zack..the suck, last pick guy....he had all the time in the world to simple stand up and get of of the slowest triangle attempt in history. He didn't listen to Reampage when he told him to get out of there...stand up...nothing....he basically gave him the fight.

The fighter's on Rampages team are weak minded mortals. At some point hte fighters have to take responsibility for getting their asses handed to them. It's so easy to blame the coach. I believe that coaching is more crucial to team sports. It's still important in the MMA world obviously but It's the responsibility of a fighter to lsiten to directions...get out or stand up mean exactly that! Not stay there and give him 2 minutes to lock on the triangle while you try to hit him!

I don't want to go through all the fights here....BUT once you get momentum everyone on the loosing team has an excuse to loose and Rampages fighters are all about exuses. There seems like there is no sense of urgency..jsut a bunch of defeated fighters that should be on the show to begin with. Like Rashad said..."you didn't come all the way here JUST to be on TV?"

Somebody on Rampages team has to step up and actually fight...I mean really fight like a warrior. spill their souls in the cage...not in their beds crying the blues!

That said Rampage had made the atmosphere lousy. Somebody has to be positive and spread that around. Rampage sure isn't.

[FFFRpickup]

I think everyone is reading too much from the show. Too critical of Rampage. He is NOT a coach and doesn't claim to be. The show focuses on the Coaches instead of fighters. In Rampage's defence. Wes Sims is un-trainable. He has been around the block with little to no improvement in YEARS. The last fight. Now for the last guy I believe his name was Zack..the suck, last pick guy....he had all the time in the world to simple stand up and get of of the slowest triangle attempt in history. He didn't listen to Rampage when he told him to get out of there...stand up...nothing....he basically gave him the fight.

The fighter's on Rampages team are weak minded mortals. At some point the fighters have to take responsibility for getting their asses handed to them. It's so easy to blame the coach. I believe that coaching is more crucial to team sports. It's still important in the MMA world obviously but It's the responsibility of a fighter to listen to directions...get out or stand up mean exactly that! Not stay there and give him 2 minutes to lock on the triangle while you try to hit him!

I don't want to go through all the fights here....BUT once you get momentum everyone on the loosing team has an excuse to loose and Rampages fighters are all about excuses. There seems like there is no sense of urgency..just a bunch of defeated fighters that should be on the show to begin with. Like Rashad said..."you didn't come all the way here JUST to be on TV?"

Somebody on Rampages team has to step up and actually fight...I mean really fight like a warrior. spill their souls in the cage...not in their beds crying the blues!

That said Rampage had made the atmosphere lousy. Somebody has to be positive and spread that around. Rampage sure isn't.

[lwbrewer]

I agree with the first poster except when was it proven he killed the unborn baby??
One thing to remember Rampage claimed retirement before this show aired. So it could of be edited as they wished. I'm tired of both fighters BS.

[Flou]

Originally Posted by roaddawg

Side Note:
You can't go around bashing fighters and then be surprised at the lash back. It comes with the territory.


rd

That was a lash back? Might have worked if I was actually a Rashad fan (or actually picturing Rashad as a nice guy), but since I dislike the guy even more than I dislike Rampage your burst kinda missed

[TheKidInside]

Originally Posted by FFFRpickup

I think everyone is reading too much from the show. Too critical of Rampage. He is NOT a coach and doesn't claim to be. The show focuses on the Coaches instead of fighters. In Rampage's defence. Wes Sims is un-trainable. He has been around the block with little to no improvement in YEARS. The last fight. Now for the last guy I believe his name was Zack..the suck, last pick guy....he had all the time in the world to simple stand up and get of of the slowest triangle attempt in history. He didn't listen to Rampage when he told him to get out of there...stand up...nothing....he basically gave him the fight.

The fighter's on Rampages team are weak minded mortals. At some point the fighters have to take responsibility for getting their asses handed to them. It's so easy to blame the coach. I believe that coaching is more crucial to team sports. It's still important in the MMA world obviously but It's the responsibility of a fighter to listen to directions...get out or stand up mean exactly that! Not stay there and give him 2 minutes to lock on the triangle while you try to hit him!

I don't want to go through all the fights here....BUT once you get momentum everyone on the loosing team has an excuse to loose and Rampages fighters are all about excuses. There seems like there is no sense of urgency..just a bunch of defeated fighters that should be on the show to begin with. Like Rashad said..."you didn't come all the way here JUST to be on TV?"

Somebody on Rampages team has to step up and actually fight...I mean really fight like a warrior. spill their souls in the cage...not in their beds crying the blues!

That said Rampage had made the atmosphere lousy. Somebody has to be positive and spread that around. Rampage sure isn't.

umm dude, if I didn't listen to my coaches I wouldn't have had a single Judo or grappling tourney under my resume. Furthermore, if GSP didn't listen to Phil Nurse he wouldn't be champ. case n point.