Tonight's Show

[AJS]

IT'S A GOOD SHOW...BUT...WHEN YOU LOOSE YOU SHOULD'NT COME BACK...ONLY IF IT'S A LOSS DECIDED BY THE JUDGES.

[Matt Boone]

My thoughts from the show:

-Hamill quitting, that sucks. I hope some other shit happens and he magically reappears. Seems impossible now that we're down to the semi's and all fights are set. But yeah they wasted a lot of interest in a Bisping/Hamill fight if they're never gonna do it.

-Tait and Kristian shocked me. I mean I guess on one hand they made sense, it's national TV with them and one other person fighting and everyone watching, if they think they're gonna lose and get beat up on TV two times out of two, why risk it? But I'm sure if they knew the meeting behind doors was going to be televised, they might have at least faked an injury instead of using the mental thing. I'd say it's worse for public image to lose a fight on short notice than be televised saying I don't want to lose on TV again. I guess in shorter terms losers are better than quitters? Maybe it was a lose-lose situation, who knows lol.

-Ross stepping up, that was just awesome. Who cares if he can't fight, blah blah. He's a british modern day version of Tank Abbott or someone. He doesn't give a holy shit about anything but fighting, trying to win and being the best fighter he can be on the biggest stage available for him to fight. You can't help but respect that. Especially the way it was set up on TV with two people turning it down first, then him smiling and being so happy and coming across as if he felt so lucky to get another chance (the way the previous two were expected to act) and it was just good shit. I know he's going to go get murdered now, but I hope he at least follows up his never-say-die image in the cage and I hope if nothing else he takes an Arturo Gatti-like ass kicking and just keeps standing tall. That would make him marketable and he'd have at least a short term future in the UFC as the guy who can take an ass kicking and stand up to it, the guaranteed action-fight type fighter. I really hope that's how things turn out for him, but in all honesty I expect him to get knocked out in the first round against Bisping. They should have matched him up with one of the other two, as somewhat of a reward for jumping in on short notice even the though he's a fill-in. Because hell, even Jesse is a fill in himself. So have those guys fight each other to see who deserved the comeback spot the most, let the two winners bang it out and then you got your finals. I guess this way they have a more competitive final is what they're thinking, but I'm under the impression that Bisping will destroy Jesse, Josh, and Ross whoever he fights.

-I thought Kendall/Kalib was an awesome fight. Kendall really surprised me. I thought Kalib would take him down a lot more and really punish him and probably submit him on the ground. Something that needs to be pointed out especially in this fight and in the whole season - on Team Punishment, EVERYONE seems to listen to Tito's instructions during their live fights so amazingly well. Go get into a fist fight with someone right now and bring a friend, have your friend instruct you in the middle of the fight what to do and try and react to that advice instantly in every case. It's not an easy thing to do yet somehow these guys hear Tito, trust him, and are capable of executing everything he tells them to do, and not only that -- it's working.

-Ed and Rory should be an amazing fight. People are underestimating the hell out of Rory Singer. I think Ed wins this one, but I think Rory will make a statement in the fight that he's the real deal. And an Ed/Kendall fight seems really interesting. With Kendall's size and reach advantage it could be a really interesting fight to check out, I'm looking forward to it.

[Anthony]

Originally Posted by killerinstinct

his lips were sore from sucking so much dick. he just couldn't fight.

Was he sucking Eddie Bravo's dick?

[Alvin]

Matt out? Sucks, but if he's more interested in making the olympic wrestling team maybe it's for the best. MMA's not the top priority for everyone.

Tait & Kristian: shocked, especially with Tait. Maybe he did not want to work with Ken anymore, but I think enoughs been said on these two. Unbelievable!

Kendall Vs Kalib: Again really surprised at how well Kendall was doing before the third round. Two very tight rounds, shaved one each, but Kalib crying off with a hurt rib? As Ken said, I've broken a rib & speaking is damn painful & twisting your body is a nightmare. I'm not sold he broke a rib, may of bruised it (also v.painful, but not enough to throw away the opportunity of a lifetime!).

Ed Vs Rory: Didn't see Rory's fight, but Ed looked very pedestrian against Danny. Also at the end of the show it looked like there was a lot of hate between each other. So looking forward to it.

[Kimuras"R"Us]

Originally Posted by Matt Boone

My thoughts from the show:

-Hamill quitting, that sucks. I hope some other shit happens and he magically reappears. Seems impossible now that we're down to the semi's and all fights are set. But yeah they wasted a lot of interest in a Bisping/Hamill fight if they're never gonna do it.

-Tait and Kristian shocked me. I mean I guess on one hand they made sense, it's national TV with them and one other person fighting and everyone watching, if they think they're gonna lose and get beat up on TV two times out of two, why risk it? But I'm sure if they knew the meeting behind doors was going to be televised, they might have at least faked an injury instead of using the mental thing. I'd say it's worse for public image to lose a fight on short notice than be televised saying I don't want to lose on TV again. I guess in shorter terms losers are better than quitters? Maybe it was a lose-lose situation, who knows lol.

-Ross stepping up, that was just awesome. Who cares if he can't fight, blah blah. He's a british modern day version of Tank Abbott or someone. He doesn't give a holy shit about anything but fighting, trying to win and being the best fighter he can be on the biggest stage available for him to fight. You can't help but respect that. Especially the way it was set up on TV with two people turning it down first, then him smiling and being so happy and coming across as if he felt so lucky to get another chance (the way the previous two were expected to act) and it was just good shit. I know he's going to go get murdered now, but I hope he at least follows up his never-say-die image in the cage and I hope if nothing else he takes an Arturo Gatti-like ass kicking and just keeps standing tall. That would make him marketable and he'd have at least a short term future in the UFC as the guy who can take an ass kicking and stand up to it, the guaranteed action-fight type fighter. I really hope that's how things turn out for him, but in all honesty I expect him to get knocked out in the first round against Bisping. They should have matched him up with one of the other two, as somewhat of a reward for jumping in on short notice even the though he's a fill-in. Because hell, even Jesse is a fill in himself. So have those guys fight each other to see who deserved the comeback spot the most, let the two winners bang it out and then you got your finals. I guess this way they have a more competitive final is what they're thinking, but I'm under the impression that Bisping will destroy Jesse, Josh, and Ross whoever he fights.

-I thought Kendall/Kalib was an awesome fight. Kendall really surprised me. I thought Kalib would take him down a lot more and really punish him and probably submit him on the ground. Something that needs to be pointed out especially in this fight and in the whole season - on Team Punishment, EVERYONE seems to listen to Tito's instructions during their live fights so amazingly well. Go get into a fist fight with someone right now and bring a friend, have your friend instruct you in the middle of the fight what to do and try and react to that advice instantly in every case. It's not an easy thing to do yet somehow these guys hear Tito, trust him, and are capable of executing everything he tells them to do, and not only that -- it's working.

-Ed and Rory should be an amazing fight. People are underestimating the hell out of Rory Singer. I think Ed wins this one, but I think Rory will make a statement in the fight that he's the real deal. And an Ed/Kendall fight seems really interesting. With Kendall's size and reach advantage it could be a really interesting fight to check out, I'm looking forward to it.

Boone, you know i love you, but what do you see in Rory that will make this a great fight? I think he's an awful fighter, I don't think he brings anything to the table, and I think he's a head case.... By no means am I in love with Ed, but I think Rory is just terrible overall.

[jedibaker]

Here are some of my feelings on the show. I had a feeling about Matt not coming back, and mentioned it on a previous thread. It sucks, but in all honesty (with nothing against UFC), I think he is more focused on Olympic gold then UFC. Through out the seasons of TUF, it seems like there are a lot of whiners. And, I think it is because the UFC is still a relatively new sport and still not a lot of people getting into it, so you have to get who you can get and hope it works. I can take the whining, but seriously, I can't stand all the bullshit that happens. I am talking about the pissing on beds, pissing on clothes, and whatever else it is they do that we don't see. I don't believe this is good PR for UFC. I didn't watch all of the boxing reality show, I even forget the name, but at no time did I see anything like this. I know they are bored, people are getting on each others nerves and stuff, but hey, grow the F%ck up. People will never stop seeing ufc as anything more then "bar room fighting" if the competitors don't stop acting like they were picked up from a bar room.

The fight was great. I don't understand the quitting, but if you figure that he probably wouldn't of been able to fight the next week anyways, what's the difference? The two not coming back, well, if you still have stitches in your head (if he did) and need time to heal, you need time to heal. But to not be mentally into it? I think I agree with someone else on here who said that he just didn't want to work with shamrock anymore. Anyways, can't wait until next week. I hope Rory wins based on attitude, but I think Ed will take it. Ross and Bisbing will be a hell of a fight (short, but good, I favor Bisbing not only to take this show, but to be a future star).

[Matt Boone]

" As Ken said, I've broken a rib & speaking is damn painful & twisting your body is a nightmare. I'm not sold he broke a rib, may of bruised it (also v.painful, but not enough to throw away the opportunity of a lifetime!)."

I remember Ken saying that and at the time I thought nothing of it, but now reading this I'm reminded of his fight with Fujita in PRIDE and well, yeah - he has little room to speak.


"Boone, you know i love you, but what do you see in Rory that will make this a great fight? I think he's an awful fighter, I don't think he brings anything to the table, and I think he's a head case.... By no means am I in love with Ed, but I think Rory is just terrible overall."

The only thing wrong with Rory was he came in mentally really in a bad way. Why? I don't know. But prior to TUF 3 I knew who Rory Singer was, I forget with who but he works with a pretty good team. Maybe AKA? I know I've seen him on some of the UFC DVDs in the bonus section helping to train fighters before their match on a UFC PPV. Honestly, that's my main reason for thinking he's not in the Thacker league like you guys make him out to be. Surely he's not as good as Herman, but if you're only judging what you've seen on TUF 3, Herman hasn't looked nearly as impressive as people expected from him either. So we'll see.

[Afro]

didnt Ken have heart problems in the Fujita fight? I think thats different from a bruised rib.

[Matt Boone]

I've never heard a confirmation. He claims heart problems, but there was never any follow up that I've heard of to determine what the problem was. Most people think Shamrock just gassed, realized Fujita was gonna take everything he could give him, and simply quit feeling an injury would be accepted as an excuse, since he was punishing the hell out of Fujita prior to asking his corner to throw in the towel.

[Afro]

Originally Posted by Matt Boone

I've never heard a confirmation. He claims heart problems, but there was never any follow up that I've heard of to determine what the problem was. Most people think Shamrock just gassed, realized Fujita was gonna take everything he could give him, and simply quit feeling an injury would be accepted as an excuse, since he was punishing the hell out of Fujita prior to asking his corner to throw in the towel.

I dunno but

when you enter a fight sick as a dog against someone like Fujita who is bigger then you are, then you give your all for a round.. I think you deserve a little benefit of the doubt, I had that in the back of my head when Ken was talkin broke ribs either.. im like hmm, but who knows maybe Ken quit for legit reasons maybe he didnt.. I dont think Ken is soft though, Kalib came off as soft from quitting.. cuz his ribs def werent cracked or broken, they just hurt and he couldnt take it anymore.

I dont view it as Kalib is a bad fighter for this cuz hes a damn good fighter, its a weakness in his game though.. somethin he should fix fast.