Matt Hughes....Coach/Preacher/Queen - Page 3

twankydawg · #21 (**permalink**) 09-27-2007, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Gurry

i dont really think it matters, im not catholic or christian, but hughes seems like a very religious man, it duznt matter if he wants to teach his guys about it or not. Hes the coach and alotta u ppl are flaming for other reasons, hughes is coming off as a nice guy this season (prolly to make serra look like a humongous dick) so w/e. Everybdoys just flaming because they think everybody collectivley hates hughes but your all to dumb and ignorant to see hes one of the best champions of all time, and if someone doesnt wanna listen to waht he has to say so be it, but itd be in ur best interest to

What the fuck are you talking about, no one is debating whether is he was or wasn't a great champion.....seriously, have you even read the fucking thread?

TriangleChoke · #22 (**permalink**) 09-27-2007, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by twankydawg

It was on the last episode, guess you missed it.

no, i saw last night's episode, but i never saw matt hughes make his team participate in Bible study??? I saw him hand out Bibles and say "you dont have to read, but if you would like, the book of Esther is a great story." then i saw him walk up to mac and tell him that the book of esther was very interesting..but i never saw hughes make anyone participate in Bible study?????

twankydawg · #23 (**permalink**) 09-27-2007, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by TriangleChoke62

no, i saw last night's episode, but i never saw matt hughes make his team participate in Bible study??? I saw him hand out Bibles and say "you dont have to read, but if you would like, the book of Esther is a great story." then i saw him walk up to mac and tell him that the book of esther was very interesting..but i never saw hughes make anyone participate in Bible study?????

Ok, let me clarify, I didn't say he made it mandatory, or made anyone participate. I said he was "making" the hour before trianing Bible study time, I didn't say it was mandatory. A better word could've been used but I wasn't meaning he was making people do it.

TriangleChoke · #24 (**permalink**) 09-27-2007, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by twankydawg

Ok, let me clarify, I didn't say he made it mandatory, or made anyone participate. I said he was "making" the hour before trianing Bible study time, I didn't say it was mandatory. A better word could've been used but I wasn't meaning he was making people do it.

i have much more respect for hughes now. I think it's great that he's trying to spread the Gospel/the word of God to his fighters. Dont get me wrong, I'm not one of those Bible pushing guys, but I am a Christian, and in all honestly, the Bible is a good read. There are some really good books in the Bible, and I hope to see more of that in the future episodes of TUF this season.

Gmunit · #25 (**permalink**) 09-27-2007, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by twankydawg

I know how he explained it but who's going to want to say no in that situation? And look at how he did Mac, Mac made his choice and instead of letting it be he went over there to push him to do it. Seems Mac made his choice but it wasn't good enough for Hughes and Mac not wanting to say no again got up and started reading it. If he had let Mac be with the decision he made I would agree with you but it was obvious that wasn't the case.

The 300 reference was priceless and Matt saying he was "the Queen" was one of the funniest things I've seen on the show eva!

yeah i gotcha, but they're in a gym and he could've gone and started hitting the bag, but Mac decided instead of reading that it was Nap time, sorta the wrong message to send to Hughes IMO

but i do agree with you, just stating how I saw it

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Originally Posted by Gurry

i dont really think it matters, im not catholic or christian, but hughes seems like a very religious man, it duznt matter if he wants to teach his guys about it or not. Hes the coach and alotta u ppl are flaming for other reasons, hughes is coming off as a nice guy this season (prolly to make serra look like a humongous dick) so w/e. Everybdoys just flaming because they think everybody collectivley hates hughes but your all to dumb and ignorant to see hes one of the best champions of all time, and if someone doesnt wanna listen to waht he has to say so be it, but itd be in ur best interest to

who's flaming Hughes?? disagreeing with someone's approach is far from flaming

twankydawg · #26 (**permalink**) 09-27-2007, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by TriangleChoke62

i have much more respect for hughes now. I think it's great that he's trying to spread the Gospel/the word of God to his fighters. Dont get me wrong, I'm not one of those Bible pushing guys, but I am a Christian, and in all honestly, the Bible is a good read. There are some really good books in the Bible, and I hope to see more of that in the future episodes of TUF this season.

Dude, I'm Christian as well and I respect him for trying to spread the word but I think him trying to do it on the show with the guys he's training isn't right. As I said before, he should check his political/religious beliefs at the door when he walks in there. If he wants to do it as his own gym that's fine but these guys didn't sign up for that and they shouldn't be put in a position where they have to do something they don't want to just because they don't want to be the guy that said no. It's obvious that saying no wouldn't go over well with Hughes evidenced by him going to Mac after Mac made his choice not too. If he hadn't done that, I wouldn't have anything to say because he had let him make his choice.

I found it really comical that Hughes was "the Queen" in all of this!

Severn · #27 (**permalink**) 09-27-2007, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by twankydawg

I know how he explained it but who's going to want to say no in that situation? And look at how he did Mac, Mac made his choice and instead of letting it be he went over there to push him to do it. Seems Mac made his choice but it wasn't good enough for Hughes and Mac not wanting to say no again got up and started reading it. If he had let Mac be with the decision he made I would agree with you but it was obvious that wasn't the case.

The 300 reference was priceless and Matt saying he was "the Queen" was one of the funniest things I've seen on the show eva!

It was on the last episode, guess you missed it.

I think the best line of the episode was the one dude at the end saying that he wishes he was KO'd (instead of tapping) since it would give him the option of dreaming of himself with fat hookers (or "phat" hookers. I really don't know).

Noob · #28 (**permalink**) 09-27-2007, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by jrube

Matt is a caring individual and it shows, and is not afraid to keep his faith out in the open.

It's a fine line between keeping your faith out in the open, and intentionally leaving it out there so that everyone is made aware of it.

I'm not saying it's one way or the other with Hughes, but from seeing some people's responses to him I can understand why they take exception to him having a religious exercise while the cameras are rolling. Especially to a group of people that may or may not share his beliefs.

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Originally Posted by jrube

I know a lot of you think Matt Hughes is a jerk because he is a Christian, but we live in America, where freedom of religion is RIGHT, and thank a soldier for that continued right, and don't try to take someone elses freedom away because you dont like it...

Lol, I'm not even sure where to go with this one.

I don't think most people "think Matt Hughes is a jerk because he is a Christian." Imo he comes off as a bit sure of himself at times, and that can rub people the wrong way, whether or not it has anything to do with religion. In this particular instance it had to do with reading the Bible, but that was I think more about the context and less about the core issue.

I also don't follow your logic that anyone is trying to take Hughes' freedoms away. I don't remember anyone saying Hughes didn't have the right to say what he said. He was just being criticized for what he said, and that would also be the right of free speech would it not? It usually works in both directions.
And I'm not sure where soldiers came into this, but:

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Originally Posted by Clint

That's where I stand with this. I have no problem with anyones religion but when your the coach even telling guys that they don't have to read isn't 100% true since you want to be in good with your coach. It's just a very touchy situation.

This is close to where I stand. It can put people in an uncomfortable position, and could be construed as Hughes taking advantage of a situation where he is aware of the respect and authority he carries, in order to plug his religion.

Salesmen do the same thing. I'm sure Hughes meant well, but it seemed to me a bit plotted.

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Originally Posted by Gurry

i dont really think it matters, im not catholic or christian, but hughes seems like a very religious man, it duznt matter if he wants to teach his guys about it or not.

It kind of does matter what he wants to teach his guys about. He wasn't hired to be a pastor, he was hired to be a coach.

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Originally Posted by Gurry

Everybdoys just flaming because they think everybody collectivley hates hughes but your all to dumb and ignorant to see hes one of the best champions of all time

Lol, I don't think anyone here has challenged Hughes' accomplishments or merits as a fighter. And one thing has very little to do with the other.

Hughes being maybe a little opportunistic with his presentation of the Biblical lesson doesn't make him any less of a champion, but it can rub people the wrong way. Either way, I don't think anyone made a comment about Hughes' in-ring accomplishments.

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Originally Posted by Gurry

, and if someone doesnt wanna listen to waht he has to say so be it, but itd be in ur best interest to

Lol, maybe about a double leg. About matters of faith and spirituality, I'm not sure.

Nothing against Hughes, but I thought your treatment of this was one-sided and selective.

Bullock · #29 (**permalink**) 09-27-2007, 03:34 PM

I don't understand why the Athiest guy says that that offends him. I mean, you don't have to believe the Bible word for word, or at all, but you can still get something from the moral teachings it presents.

That being said, I can't understand why Hughes did it, lol. He basically had them read nine pages of a Bible and figure out who he is in the story. What purpose does that serve?

And I have to agree that the part where he says "I'm the Queen" was one of the funniest things I've ever heard.

Very strange.

2mcgrath · #30 (**permalink**) 09-27-2007, 03:38 PM

i dont really see a problem with what he done ethier.i myself am a christian.and would have gladly participated in reading the story.but you right i dont think it should be pushed on anyone.but maybe he was just trying to get thier spirits uplifted i dont know lol.there is alot of uplifting stories in the bible.maybe its his way of bonding with them