Is Jens Pulver Washed Up?

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Originally Posted by Destral

By that logic, BJ is just as washed up. Yes he went up to WW, but he hasn't looked nearly as in shape as his early LW days. If he didn't gas so easily, the outcomes against Matt Hughes and GSP might be very different.

Yeah the outcomes MIGHT have been very different if "insert variable here" but weren't.

I was gonna say BJ isn't in as good of shape as earlier years anyway, but I still think he'll sub or tko Jens.

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Originally Posted by da@LARGE

BUt besides all that, he's such a cool guy. Has anyone watching this season's TUF become a new Pulver fan?

No, I think he's a pain in hte ass. And he looks like a fucking bat. What's with that?

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after watching this season of TUF and his 2005 lightweight gp appearance against Sakurai, im a big Pulver fan. Even though he lost to sakurai he put up one hell of a fight. One thing you cant hold against Jens is he always comes to fight. I give him respect for that.

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Originally Posted by Afro Samurai

No offense to Pulver but how can he be washed up? he hasnt fallen off or elevated, he never had an iron chin or great skills, he was a knockout striker with solid wrestling but lets not forget that Penn took him down before Penn started training hard in wrestling, and didnt even use his judo to take Pulver down.. so Pulver has always been somewhat one-dimensional, and never had the chin to stay on the feet long with guys like Lauzon who has sick skills on the feet.

Are you serious? Pulver stood toe to toe with Sakurai and Gomi and actually hurt both of them. Sure, he lost both fights, but he looked like he could do more than just compete with those guys. I think he is still a bad matchup for Penn because he has comparable or better boxing skills and is tricky to take down.

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Originally Posted by chuteboxechamp

One thing you cant hold against Jens is he always comes to fight. I give him respect for that.

Lol, I guess you didn't see the Lauzon fight.

[Afro]

Originally Posted by smoogy

Are you serious? Pulver stood toe to toe with Sakurai and Gomi and actually hurt both of them. Sure, he lost both fights, but he looked like he could do more than just compete with those guys. I think he is still a bad matchup for Penn because he has comparable or better boxing skills and is tricky to take down.

Your talking about his striking, thats the one-dimension I was referring to

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Yeah but you said he never had the chin to stand with guys as good as Lauzon... he stood with Sakurai and Gomi for extended periods of time, if he hadn't gotten eyepoked by Sakurai without a chance to recover he might have even won that fight.

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Originally Posted by smoogy

Yeah but you said he never had the chin to stand with guys as good as Lauzon... he stood with Sakurai and Gomi for extended periods of time, if he hadn't gotten eyepoked by Sakurai without a chance to recover he might have even won that fight.

They both TKO'd or KO'd him though thats what im talking about, he doesnt have an iron chin and guys with power like Sakurai, Gomi, and Lauzon (im not tryna put Lauzon in Sakurai or Gomi's class but he does have knockout power) the more he stands with him, the more they punch Pulver the better chance they have of knockin him out.. the guys lost 5 fights by TKO.

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I think this thread is a little premature. We will find about after the fight.

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Originally Posted by da@LARGE

Yeah I noticed that too, there's a helluva difference.

I'd like to hear how his training's changed over the last few years. When he started it's true that a wreslter with KO power could dominate.

But lately I'm not sure how he gameplans - he loves scoring quick knock outs but if that doesn't happen, I'm not sure what his next step is.

BUt besides all that, he's such a cool guy. Has anyone watching this season's TUF become a new Pulver fan?

Yea I have dude. Pulver is cool guy.