i WISH EVERYONE JUST LISTENED TO ME WHEN I SAID CELTS WOULD TAKE IT ALL....now all you L.A fans are going to be upset....but do not say you did not hear it from MONSONBYCHOKE....You were going to loose.....Kobe will not win a championship without another superstar.......No shaq this year........He is not Jordan....Jordan could win without a superstar...
Yet Jordan never won without a superstar so whats this logic?
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Yet Jordan never won without a superstar so whats this logic?
whAT Superstar did Jordan have??? Your not talking about Pippen i hope??? Or Grant or Rodman??
None of them are what you would call SUPERSTARS, role players yes. Jordan hands down made that team. Do you remember how Pippen played after Jordan was gone?? Not to well. Jordan made those guys good.
I respect your opinion as always but i disagree
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We'll just have to agree to disagree on Jordan and the superstars he had next to him. Completely. 'Cause that's insane.
Now, back to the series. Game 4...Was heartbreaking. I didn't even watch game 5 tonight because I love the Lakers so much, hahah. I'm convinced I'm the reason they lost, and so I opted not to watch tonight and: tada. We won.
whAT Superstar did Jordan have??? Your not talking about Pippen i hope??? Or Grant or Rodman??
None of them are what you would call SUPERSTARS, role players yes. Jordan hands down made that team. Do you remember how Pippen played after Jordan was gone?? Not to well. Jordan made those guys good.
I respect your opinion as always but i disagree
Pippen was ranked in the Top 50 greatest players of all-time, and lead the Bulls to 50 wins by himself.. thats not a fuckin "role player" by any stretch of the imagination.. Pippen was a superstar hands down.
Do I remember how Pippen played after Jordan was gone? he lead them to the playoffs! it was Pippen's own work ethic and attitude that didnt lead them further.. do you remember that? sitting out the final quarter when his coach asked him to get back in the game?
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Pippen was ranked in the Top 50 greatest players of all-time, and lead the Bulls to 50 wins by himself.. thats not a fuckin "role player" by any stretch of the imagination.. Pippen was a superstar hands down.
Do I remember how Pippen played after Jordan was gone? he lead them to the playoffs! it was Pippen's own work ethic and attitude that didnt lead them further.. do you remember that? sitting out the final quarter when his coach asked him to get back in the game?
True! Pippen was a superstar and he did lead the Bulls to the eastern conference finals twice.
Jordan on the other hand, wins titles! Also, I think it was Jordan that instilled confidence in the Bulls to be that good, even after he left the first time. The Lakers and celts are All Star teams compared to the Bulls mediocre role players.
Pippen was ranked in the Top 50 greatest players of all-time, and lead the Bulls to 50 wins by himself.. thats not a fuckin "role player" by any stretch of the imagination.. Pippen was a superstar hands down.
Do I remember how Pippen played after Jordan was gone? he lead them to the playoffs! it was Pippen's own work ethic and attitude that didnt lead them further.. do you remember that? sitting out the final quarter when his coach asked him to get back in the game?
Any reason why this is striking such a nerve with you? I am giving you my opinion. You seem a little tense my man.
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its not striking a nerve, I just disagree bro.. I mean to add to it.. Scottie is only one of 5 players in NBA history to lead his team in Points, Assists, Steals, Rebounds, and Blocks.
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its not striking a nerve, I just disagree bro.. I mean to add to it.. Scottie is only one of 5 players in NBA history to lead his team in Points, Assists, Steals, Rebounds, and Blocks.
What I am trying to say I guess is Kobe had the most dominating center in baskeball in the last who knows how many years. Some people would debate shaq was the best ever, not me but some would. Yes Scottie was a very good player. In saying that I believe that Jordan on his own with half decent players could still win the titles he won. He just made his team better on every aspect of basketball. Now Kobe on the other hand has not showed me that he can win without another superstar on his team I guess that was my point. I think without Pippen Jordan still would of been finding a way to win those titles.
Any team Jordan goes to is a automatic contender when Jordan was Jordan.
As Magic once said
"There is michael Jordan and then there is the rest of us"
Just because we are talking about this stuff I found this Video
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Ya I agree with that, but u have to agree with the fact that Jordan may be the only player you can say that for.. and Kobe is still the closest thing to Michael Jordan that the league has seen thus far.. he'll more then likely not surpass Jordan.. but theres really no doubt in my mind at this point that Kobes gonna claim the 2nd spot. I dont really have faith that Lebron will surpass Kobe or Jordan when its all said and done either.
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