BCS National Championship Title Game LSU vs Ohio State

[TheBonger]

first of I am back, been away for a bit but I have returned. This is my first return post because this system is the biggest fucking sham ever. There is no National Champion this year, most years there isn't because there is no playoff and everything is slanted too the traditional powers it is the only league I know of where you can win every fucking game and not have a chance in hell at a championship. And I know I will get alittle flame for this because of the several LSU fans but it is a complete bullshit agruement that LSU>Georgia because LSU won the SEC and the Dawgs didnt. That agruement holds no water , LSU and Georgia play in different divisions of the SEC so they play different schedules and guess what there conference records were identical so if Georgia were in the mucher weaker West division they would have been in the title game and LSU would have had a tiebreaker. Since Oct 13, LSU is 5-2 while GA is 6-0, I just think justifing jumping LSU that high because they got too play in the weaker division and made the title game with the same conference record while GA missed out due too an early loss too Tenn. Anyways this is all a joke until they get a playoff system.

[TheBonger]

Originally Posted by osuwrestling

I think Oklahoma even has a better arguement than LSU. They were ahead of LSU in the BCS going into last weekend, they beat Mizz (the #1 ranked team in the country @ the time) and win the Big 12 and somehow LSU jumps ahead of Oklahoma b/c of a 7 point win over #14 Tenn? How does that work?

I agree we need a playoff

i agree about OK as well, not only did they beat a better or higher ranked team but they blew them outta the water while LSU slipped by a underacheiving Tenn team. And its not just the Title game that gets screwed up, is there really anyone on here that wants too make an agruement for Illionois getting the BCS atlarge and going too the Rose bowl over teams like Florida,Mizzou or ASU? It is fucking retarded that the Big Ten gets all that extra cash because the Rose insists on having Big Ten/Pac10 and that deserving teams are playing in Cotten and Capitol One bowls where Illi should be.

[Salvy_Mic]

I've really grown to hate the BCS, every couple of years, two truly deserving teams will play in the national title game (Ohio State/Miami, Texas/USC), but otherwise, it's gotten us nothing but mismatches and second guesses. If they're not gonna go to a playoff, the next best thing to do would be to have the big 4 bowls with the traditional (or new) bowl allegiances (Rose- Pac10 vs. Big 10; Sugar- SEC vs. at-large; Orange- ACC vs. at-large; Fiesta- Big12 vs. at-large). After these bowls are played, do another set of rankings afterwards, and have the top 2 teams play each other a week or so later. So this year, under that proposed system, we would have seen:

Rose: Ohio St. vs. USC
Sugar: LSU vs. Hawaii
Orange: Virginia Tech vs. Georgia
Fiesta: Oklahoma vs. West Virginia

Now tell me you couldn't get a pair of true, certifiable #1 and #2 ranked teams out of these matchups.

[eazye76]

Originally Posted by osuwrestling

Or we could ask Arkansas whats it like to play LSU @ home

Tres is going to coach circles around that fool Les Miles

Tressel got embarrassed last year by Urban Meyer at a neutral site, what the hell makes you think it's going to be any better against the guy that beat Meyer, who is playing a virtual home game Fucking Tressel lost to Ron Zook for fuck's sake!


I do want to congratulate Jim Laurinaitis for winning the Nagurski Award(nations top D player), oh wait he didn't win it, Glenn Dorsey did.

Originally Posted by osuwrestling

This coming from a delusional Clemson fan.

Im not worried @ all, everyone said this same crap in '02 when we played Miami for the title.

So is Ohio st. going to take a cheap shot at Jacob Hester and break his leg in to two pieces like they had to do to Willis McGahee to win back in '02?

[Legend]

Originally Posted by osuwrestling

Non conf schedule? La Tech, Tulane, M Tenn St., plz-LSU does it too. OSU just likes to keep that money in state when we schedule wins.

LSU is in the SEC and we have a brutal conference schedule every year not to mention we played VT (ACC Champs) who were ranked #9 at the time. I like how you neglected to mention them.

[eazye76]

Originally Posted by osuwrestling

Please, I dont think anyone thinks Les Miles is a better coach than Tres. This will be Jims 6th national title as a headcoach if he wins, and 3rd D1 title game in 6 years. 4 BCS bowl wins in 7 years as the coach of OSU. PLease, anyone can play the "this guy beat him" game acting like those stats even matter. If any major school had the opportunity to get either Les or Jim @ the same price-Its Jim, 100% of the time. Les Miles is a well known douche bag too .

McGahee went out in the 4th quarter on a completly clean hit, he just got blasted. Not worried about Hester anyways, the #1 defense in the country is gonna humble that kid.
aBeanie Wells > Hester anyways. And if your acting like we won b/c McGahee went out in the 4th your nuts, they never led in that game. Your just a OSU hater, lets get real

they never led in that game

Miami scored the first touchdown Dude!!!!!!!!!!

Mcgahee went out in the first of the 4th quarter when Miami was driving, the game went into 2 overtimes, you don't think that had any effect on the game?

I think your forgetting some things about the game.

[eazye76]

Originally Posted by osuwrestling

Yeah I forgot they scored the first TD but that was it. Secondly, dont act like Miami was a better team. 13 Buckeyes that year were drafted to the NFL. They went 14-0. Silver bullet defense son. People like you will always make excuses no matter what-its football, people get hurt, deal with it (or in your case, cry about it). Do you hear me bitching about Tedd Ginn going out in the first play of the national championship game last year? Nope, shit happens.
BTW, your a Vols fan....Self owned

OSU's football program vs. Tenn since 2000.....Ummm, yeah. Im sure you will blame it on your super hard conference though.

These arguments are lame as hell. I'm about done with this shit, but please answer me one question - What happened last year against Florida? That OSU team was better than this year and you got your ass stomped, was it a fluke, did OSU not come to play? Why is it going to be any different this year.

OSU's football program vs. Tenn since 2000

OK you guys have been a lot better since 2000, but since '96 we're 1-0 head to head, and isn't Ohio State something like 0-8 against our "super hard conference"?


****Edit**** just fact checked their 0-7 against the SEC

2002 31-28 (Lost to South Carolina)
2001 24-7 (Lost to South Carolina)
1996 20-14 (Lost to Tennessee)
1995 24-17 (Lost to Alabama)
1993 21-14 (Lost to Georgia)
1990 31-14 ((Lost to Auburn)
1978 35-6 (Lost to Alabama)

http://sports.aol.com/fanhouse/categ...in-bowl-games/

[JimmyMoore]

09/01 YSU
09/08 Akron
09/15 Washington
09/22 Northwestern
09/29 Minnesota
10/06 #23 Purdue
10/13 Kent St.
10/20 Michigan St.
10/27 #25 Penn State
11/03 #21 Wisconsin (now #18)
11/10 Illinois (now #13)
11/17 #21 Michigan

Just wanted to post this for anyone who hasnt seen it. Ohio St. played 4 "ranked" teams none of whom were in the top 20. Only two of the teams are currently ranked, one of which they lost to at home. Put another way, Ohio State is 1-1 against currently ranked opponents and haven't beaten anyone higher than #18. Their preconference schedule was shit. The Big Ten is shit. The BCS is shit.

[Legend]

Originally Posted by TheBonger

first of I am back, been away for a bit but I have returned. This is my first return post because this system is the biggest fucking sham ever. There is no National Champion this year, most years there isn't because there is no playoff and everything is slanted too the traditional powers it is the only league I know of where you can win every fucking game and not have a chance in hell at a championship. And I know I will get alittle flame for this because of the several LSU fans but it is a complete bullshit agruement that LSU>Georgia because LSU won the SEC and the Dawgs didnt. That agruement holds no water , LSU and Georgia play in different divisions of the SEC so they play different schedules and guess what there conference records were identical so if Georgia were in the mucher weaker West division they would have been in the title game and LSU would have had a tiebreaker. Since Oct 13, LSU is 5-2 while GA is 6-0, I just think justifing jumping LSU that high because they got too play in the weaker division and made the title game with the same conference record while GA missed out due too an early loss too Tenn. Anyways this is all a joke until they get a playoff system.

So bc Georgia was ranked higher in the BCS going into last Saturday and were idol that weekend that means they should get the nod to the national title game. And they were only ranked higher at the time bc they have went longer without losing. And overall you have a point about the West being weaker then the East this year. However, with the exception of Georgia LSU beat the two best teams in the East this year those being Tennessee & Florida. They also beat South Carolina. So that means LSU actually beat both the teams that hung loses on Georgia while Georgia only beat one of LSU's that being Kentucky. Not winning your conference let alone your division and only real argument being that Georgia was ranked higher at the time just does not hold water imo.

Originally Posted by osuwrestling

I think Oklahoma even has a better arguement than LSU. They were ahead of LSU in the BCS going into last weekend, they beat Mizz (the #1 ranked team in the country @ the time) and win the Big 12 and somehow LSU jumps ahead of Oklahoma b/c of a 7 point win over #14 Tenn? How does that work?

I agree we need a playoff

Oklahoma was not ranked higher then LSU going into last Saturday. OK was #9 and LSU was #7. Ok would have had to jump LSU to make the title game. And yes Missouri was ranked higher then Tennessee, however, with that game OK has only played 3 ranked teams while LSU has played 7.

Originally Posted by TheBonger

i agree about OK as well, not only did they beat a better or higher ranked team but they blew them outta the water while LSU slipped by a underacheiving Tenn team. And its not just the Title game that gets screwed up, is there really anyone on here that wants too make an agruement for Illionois getting the BCS atlarge and going too the Rose bowl over teams like Florida,Mizzou or ASU? It is fucking retarded that the Big Ten gets all that extra cash because the Rose insists on having Big Ten/Pac10 and that deserving teams are playing in Cotten and Capitol One bowls where Illi should be.

SEC is a better conference and the fact that OK beat Mizz by a much larger margin then LSU beat Tennessee is misleading bc some of our best players were watching from the bench. Like our starting QB and the best D lineman in the country before he got injured. So the fact that we still won despite the injuries says allot about our team.

Now even though my team is one win away from a national title I completely agree that we need a playoff. And the fact that Mizz is left out of a BCS bowl game while Kansas and Illinois get in is complete bullshit. But the thing to remember is that the bowls them selfs pick who gets the invite to play in their bowl game. The BCS itself has much less to do with it then most people think. So as far as that goes people should be made at the people who run those particular bowl games and not so much the BCS system.

[eazye76]

Lets see where to start...

0-8....Going back to 1903 with that one, ouch (seriously now, c'mon).

OK heres a better one OSU is 0-7 against the SEC since 1990, and they lost 2 straight to S. Carolina - nobody loses to S. Carolina.

Ginn went out the first play of the game on that kickoff return for a touchdown.

Didn't you tell me to quit crying when I made the statement that McGahee went out in their game, so I don't give me the injury shit - where was Anthony Gonzolaz?.

Flordia had a good game plan as well, and Leak probally played the best game of his career.

You don't think OSU's defense(or lack their of) had something to do with that. Same for the cover 2, not working and Smith looking bad. It was due to the play of the Florida D-line. I don't know about Leak, but the line probably had their best game ever.

You were beat twice this year, by a Kentucky and Arkansas teams I know OSU would roll over.

Arkansas - Darren Mcfadden - Heisman Canidate/top 3 pick in the draft(easily could be #1)
Kentucky - Team w/ QB ranked in the top 10 on Scouts inc Draft Board.

Hey, there is some good news for the Vols...Womens basketball season is here

I really don't care, I don't watch women's b-ball. In other words I pay as much attention to it as you do football.

you were right the first time @ 0-8 btw, you left out the title game last year

Pardon me, It's worse than I realized.

Quit living in the John Cooper era bro

Who the fuck is John Cooper?