Raider Fans

[TheBonger]

Originally Posted by Afro

I ignored him after the last post I responded to so im done, I really dont wanna discuss football with someone who gets all there opinions from a fan site.. sorry, but if you want to quote my post you better have your own opinion and not someone elses that your obviously copying and pasting, otherwise expect a rude response from me. But I really shouldnt be saying this considering no one else on this entire forum does that except for TheBonger.

lol have to love the indirect responses, if you dont want to respond then get my name out of your mouth boy. A"rude" response from you wow that is really scary, maybe you should check out some of those so-called "fan" sites because anybody that thinks Cherilus or Campbell for that matter if Top 5 material is just fucking stupid thats all. Nothing else needs too be said, you are entitled to your opinion its just a completely dumbass wrong opinion.


As far as you go palma, there is no point in even trying too discuss any of this shit with you. I tried and you are the one that responded like a true douche.

[Afro]

Originally Posted by Palma

It doesn't matter at this point... I'm sure you saw the Raiders signed Harris. Not too stoked on him, but maybe Cable can make him an effective LT.

I'm sure they will be drafting a defensive lineman at this point.

See everyones mixed about Kwame Harris, gonna be honest... I dont do a lot of 49er football watchin' but half are saying that Cable can do wonders with him since he does have a high work ethic, and he is aggressive.. others are saying Cornell Green.. I dont care, I think if you do better then Barry Sims your fine with me.

I love the Javon Walker signing, he was doing well until his knee got hurt.. he did well with the Donks playing injured, was a pro bowler before that.. the whole season he sat out getting his knee healthy, so we get 100% Javon Walker for the season.. hes an upgraded version of Jerry Porter so we've improved there, he can actually play the #1 WR role.

Gibril Wilson was a huge signing, big impact on defense because it puts Huff back at his natural position and we get a true SS for once. He'll make the most impact of all our signings because hes corrected our defensive scheme.

Raiders should draft DL for sure, only players im interested in really in the first round would be Glenn Dorsey, Chris Long, Calais Campbell, or Golsder Cherilus. Jake Long to me is just another Big-10 bust, and Vernon Gholston is really good.. just not sold on his size, and his dimensions.. we really dont need another one dimensional pass rusher.

[Palma]

Originally Posted by Afro

See everyones mixed about Kwame Harris, gonna be honest... I dont do a lot of 49er football watchin' but half are saying that Cable can do wonders with him since he does have a high work ethic, and he is aggressive.. others are saying Cornell Green.. I dont care, I think if you do better then Barry Sims your fine with me.

I love the Javon Walker signing, he was doing well until his knee got hurt.. he did well with the Donks playing injured, was a pro bowler before that.. the whole season he sat out getting his knee healthy, so we get 100% Javon Walker for the season.. hes an upgraded version of Jerry Porter so we've improved there, he can actually play the #1 WR role.

Gibril Wilson was a huge signing, big impact on defense because it puts Huff back at his natural position and we get a true SS for once. He'll make the most impact of all our signings because hes corrected our defensive scheme.

Raiders should draft DL for sure, only players im interested in really in the first round would be Glenn Dorsey, Chris Long, Calais Campbell, or Golsder Cherilus. Jake Long to me is just another Big-10 bust, and Vernon Gholston is really good.. just not sold on his size, and his dimensions.. we really dont need another one dimensional pass rusher.

Agreed... a run stopping lineman is what is needed at this point.

Harris is allot like Gallery is some respects... he doesn't have as much trouble getting out of his stance, but he does get burned and he does commit a shit load of penalties. He is better the Simms though...

Simms has been the achilles heal ever since he has been LT... he is the biggest reason they have given up so many sacks as well as lossing the Super Bowl (imo)... If Wisniewski retired a year later they would probably have won.

I cant wait to see Wilson lay a hit on... I've always liked that guy. He's like a Marcus Anderson who can cover. If they didn't have the best secondary they do now.

As far as who to draft... I admit I don't really follow college football so I don't know many individual players outside of the Pac10... Long and Dorsey would both be great but they are also projected to go in the top 3. One thing that's nice is Kelly is a good DT or DE so there is some flexiblity there.

[The Sundance Kid]

Dear TheBonger,

I don't know what the hell has crawled up your ass and died, but please quit causing so much fucking controversy. I've never had a problem with you and still don't but your not making matter's good by continually arguing with people over petty bullshit. You seem to be pissing a lot of people off lately and I suggest you stop. I do not need to be concerned with this high school drama bullshit, and I will not be. I would really like if you wouldn't post in this thread anymore, your obviously not a raider's fan, so stay out of the thread unless you are going to have good, debatable, intelligent, non-flaming Post, instead of just posting shit to start shit.

I would also like to ask everyone else to no get into arguments with Thebonger, if you feel that you are provoked, let me know.

Same goes for Bonger if he feels he is provoked.


Now, you guys can get back to your circle jerk.

[The Sundance Kid]

Also.


ATL > Raiders

[TheBonger]

Originally Posted by The Sundance Kid

Dear TheBonger,

I don't know what the hell has crawled up your ass and died, but please quit causing so much fucking controversy. I've never had a problem with you and still don't but your not making matter's good by continually arguing with people over petty bullshit. You seem to be pissing a lot of people off lately and I suggest you stop. I do not need to be concerned with this high school drama bullshit, and I will not be. I would really like if you wouldn't post in this thread anymore, your obviously not a raider's fan, so stay out of the thread unless you are going to have good, debatable, intelligent, non-flaming Post, instead of just posting shit to start shit.

I would also like to ask everyone else to no get into arguments with Thebonger, if you feel that you are provoked, let me know.

Same goes for Bonger if he feels he is provoked.


Now, you guys can get back to your circle jerk.

Dear Sundance,
I doubt know what you are talking about exactly, causing controversy? I have never gotten along with Afro for obvious reasons and I dont feel like I said anything crossing the line in my intial post. The Smoogy thing is a separate issue that has been brought here by him and a yea me and palma have argued in this thread a bit but if you read through I tried to get it back on the tracks with him but that wasnt happening. So besides those three who exactly am I pissing off? I really dont appreciate being called out, but whatever I guess im causing trouble.

[Afro]

Originally Posted by Palma

Agreed... a run stopping lineman is what is needed at this point.

Harris is allot like Gallery is some respects... he doesn't have as much trouble getting out of his stance, but he does get burned and he does commit a shit load of penalties. He is better the Simms though...

Simms has been the achilles heal ever since he has been LT... he is the biggest reason they have given up so many sacks as well as lossing the Super Bowl (imo)... If Wisniewski retired a year later they would probably have won.

I cant wait to see Wilson lay a hit on... I've always liked that guy. He's like a Marcus Anderson who can cover. If they didn't have the best secondary they do now.

As far as who to draft... I admit I don't really follow college football so I don't know many individual players outside of the Pac10... Long and Dorsey would both be great but they are also projected to go in the top 3. One thing that's nice is Kelly is a good DT or DE so there is some flexiblity there.

I think right now Dorsey is the most likely to be our draft pick

Falcons just cut Harrington, Leftwich is injured.. more then likely, they are going QB

Dolphins are the only other team I really see drafting Dorsey, because of Tuna.. he goes D' and hes gotta be in love with Dorsey at this point.. that guy is just mean, and all football player.

Rams could go Dorsey as well, but really I see them taking Jake.

If neither team goes Dorsey, we will.. if not I can see us taking Chris or even Vernon Gholston.. who I think will enter the draft with more hype then Calais Campbell.. even though I think Calais' size and ability vs the run and pass would make him a better fir for us.

Or its possible that we trade Huff for one of the Cowboys picks, or possibly trading the #4 pick as well with Huff for a buttload of picks

then we can pick up some gems mid-first round.. I really think if we miss out on Chris Long and Dorsey that were missing out on whats really worth it in the Top 5 because.. all the real gems are in the Mid first.

[Palma]

Originally Posted by Afro

I think right now Dorsey is the most likely to be our draft pick

Falcons just cut Harrington, Leftwich is injured.. more then likely, they are going QB

Dolphins are the only other team I really see drafting Dorsey, because of Tuna.. he goes D' and hes gotta be in love with Dorsey at this point.. that guy is just mean, and all football player.

Rams could go Dorsey as well, but really I see them taking Jake.

If neither team goes Dorsey, we will.. if not I can see us taking Chris or even Vernon Gholston.. who I think will enter the draft with more hype then Calais Campbell.. even though I think Calais' size and ability vs the run and pass would make him a better fir for us.

Or its possible that we trade Huff for one of the Cowboys picks, or possibly trading the #4 pick as well with Huff for a buttload of picks

then we can pick up some gems mid-first round.. I really think if we miss out on Chris Long and Dorsey that were missing out on whats really worth it in the Top 5 because.. all the real gems are in the Mid first.

Fuck, I'd hate to give up Huff and have Wilson and Scweigert... what about trading down and going for Ellis?

[The Sundance Kid]

Dear The Bonger,


I don't like calling you out, but I did.

Now please stop.

I've read the whole thread, and just asking you to let it go.

Like I said, I don't like being bothered with Petty Bullshit.

Usually, I don't bother with stuff like this, but when I get 5pm's from different people that are long time, well respected members of this community, I have to do something.


Thanks,

The Sundance Kid.


(NO NEED TO RESPOND)

[Afro]

Originally Posted by Palma

Fuck, I'd hate to give up Huff and have Wilson and Scweigert... what about trading down and going for Ellis?

You mean Wilson and Eugene, Stus on the bench!