Should Vick be allowed to play football again?

[CM PO]

Originally Posted by Frasedog

Absolutely he should get to play football again. I think all this talk is ridiculous. You want to throw the guy away for years and ban him from football over dogfighting? I like dogs but come on! Were talking about a sport (dogfighting) that in other countries is held in as high a regard as horse racing is here. Yeah its a felony. Yeah it's cruel. So fine the man. Give him a year in prison and move on.

If u have a convicted felon on the field do u know how much bad press Goodell would get? So what u prolly say but sponsors pull out and major backlash would be received. Would any player be worth the circus that would become a game with Vick in it?

If u got convicted of a FELONY, how easy would it be to find another job? U view it as no big deal but its still breakin the law and its still a felony. I mean the papers for the case said THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA VS MICHAEL VICK.How much bigger does it get?

[error2k5]

leonard little who killed a person while drunk, served the time, and received a DUI a few months after killing the person was still allowed to play in the NFL.

[mattsoper]

he is a piece os shit and an embarressment to the NFL, his team, his family and himself. I will never look at him the same every again and he deserves what every comes to him

But, like many people have said, a life time ban might be a bit harsh. IF he serves 3+ years in prison and get's suspended for a year or two then I would be happy.

and who knows, nobody might want him. I wouldn't be surprised if the falcons release his ass. Any stadium he goes to now the fans will be all over his ass. If his own fans might. Although I did see a fan in atlanta holding a sign that said let Vick play, (which I think is greedy and stupid of that fan). BUt of course there will probably be some owner lookuing for the publicity and sign him to some stupid contract and we will all tune in to watch vick get boo'ed and smashed.

[error2k5]

leonard little killed a woman while drunk driving and served 90 days in jail. He then got another DUI after that. He still plays in the NFL to this day. Where is the outrage over this? He dosen't get harassed by the fans, he still plays for an nfl team.

[Noise Chopped]

Originally Posted by error2k5

leonard little killed a woman while drunk driving and served 90 days in jail. He then got another DUI after that. He still plays in the NFL to this day. Where is the outrage over this? He dosen't get harassed by the fans, he still plays for an nfl team.

I don't mean to sound condescending about this, so I'll try to make it clear.

People/the casual fan being reminded who Leonard Little as a response TO the Vick case is why Little isn't being harassed and there isn't as much outrage. The only way people even know who Leonard Little is now is due to the point you're trying to make regarding the Vick case. Literally, the only way people now even know who this Little guy is, is because of a footnote on this whole Vick episode.

Does that make sense? Like, even Vick supporters didn't know who the hell this Little guy was before this big fiasco. And another part of the answer to your question also has to due with this indesputable fact:

Micheal Vick was one of (if not THE) highest paid player in the NFL. Before Vick, the Atlanta Falcons had almost as many seats empty in the stadium as they did being used. You know? To pretend as if Micheal Vick is some regular Joe Schmoe (or Leonard Little) is a little naive. Guess what? If you're as big a star as Vick is/was - You're going to carry as big 'a' scrutiny and attention, REGARDLESS of what you do.

Really, it's like...If some guy down the street was caught in surveillance stealing a car - He's arrested and nobody hears about it. If the President of the United States does it, do you think it outrageous for the media to cover it more? It's only natural - And considering how much the President (and Vick) get paid, very much fair. How people, when given million dollar contracts, DON'T wise the fuck up is beyond me. Especially coming from a similar community, and knowing a LOT of kids/parents/people in the neighborhood who could do wonders with the money Vick had - It just pisses me off.

Having said all that, there is a hypocrasy in the NFL that I wish was covered more. That Leonard Little incident (while standing by the point I made) is fucking nuts, and Goodell not addressing it is a sign of this leagues complete cowardice.

...Fuckin' wrote a lot again, hah. Oh well.

[error2k5]

Originally Posted by Subj. & Noise Chopped

I don't mean to sound condescending about this, so I'll try to make it clear.

People/the casual fan being reminded who Leonard Little as a response TO the Vick case is why Little isn't being harassed and there isn't as much outrage. The only way people even know who Leonard Little is now is due to the point you're trying to make regarding the Vick case. Literally, the only way people now even know who this Little guy is, is because of a footnote on this whole Vick episode.

Does that make sense? Like, even Vick supporters didn't know who the hell this Little guy was before this big fiasco. And another part of the answer to your question also has to due with this indesputable fact:

Micheal Vick was one of (if not THE) highest paid player in the NFL. Before Vick, the Atlanta Falcons had almost as many seats empty in the stadium as they did being used. You know? To pretend as if Micheal Vick is some regular Joe Schmoe (or Leonard Little) is a little naive. Guess what? If you're as big a star as Vick is/was - You're going to carry as big 'a' scrutiny and attention, REGARDLESS of what you do.

Really, it's like...If some guy down the street was caught in surveillance stealing a car - He's arrested and nobody hears about it. If the President of the United States does it, do you think it outrageous for the media to cover it more? It's only natural - And considering how much the President (and Vick) get paid, very much fair. How people, when given million dollar contracts, DON'T wise the fuck up is beyond me. Especially coming from a similar community, and knowing a LOT of kids/parents/people in the neighborhood who could do wonders with the money Vick had - It just pisses me off.

Having said all that, there is a hypocrasy in the NFL that I wish was covered more. That Leonard Little incident (while standing by the point I made) is fucking nuts, and Goodell not addressing it is a sign of this leagues complete cowardice.

...Fuckin' wrote a lot again, hah. Oh well.

I agree with everything you said. My point was more to those who say vick should receive a lifetime ban from the nfl and that he'll never play again. If that idiot leonard little can do it...anyone can. I just hope Dictator Goodell dosen't go power hungry on this one.

[jploans]

No way will he be banned for life, regardless of what people think he deserves. I have never been a fan of Vicks QB ability, even though he is an incredible athlete.

He will most likely get a 2 year official ban.

The big question is, what team/position will be available for him after he gets off suspension.

My prediction....he will have to transition to receiver, assuming his speed is still there.

[pa99fighter]

Originally Posted by scottsec

Alot of people are very disgusted with this entire situation. Most seem to think Vick should be banned from the NFL fof life. I personally think MV is a peice of shit but banned for life??? Im sure there are several players in the NFL that have had a few DUI and people die every year because of drinking and driving. I say punish MV in the courts suspend him and when the man has served his time give him a second chance.

I think jails enough punishment

[sandywh]

Originally Posted by Subj. & Noise Chopped

I don't mean to sound condescending about this, so I'll try to make it clear.

People/the casual fan being reminded who Leonard Little as a response TO the Vick case is why Little isn't being harassed and there isn't as much outrage. The only way people even know who Leonard Little is now is due to the point you're trying to make regarding the Vick case. Literally, the only way people now even know who this Little guy is, is because of a footnote on this whole Vick episode.

Does that make sense? Like, even Vick supporters didn't know who the hell this Little guy was before this big fiasco. And another part of the answer to your question also has to due with this indesputable fact:

Micheal Vick was one of (if not THE) highest paid player in the NFL. Before Vick, the Atlanta Falcons had almost as many seats empty in the stadium as they did being used. You know? To pretend as if Micheal Vick is some regular Joe Schmoe (or Leonard Little) is a little naive. Guess what? If you're as big a star as Vick is/was - You're going to carry as big 'a' scrutiny and attention, REGARDLESS of what you do.

Really, it's like...If some guy down the street was caught in surveillance stealing a car - He's arrested and nobody hears about it. If the President of the United States does it, do you think it outrageous for the media to cover it more? It's only natural - And considering how much the President (and Vick) get paid, very much fair. How people, when given million dollar contracts, DON'T wise the fuck up is beyond me. Especially coming from a similar community, and knowing a LOT of kids/parents/people in the neighborhood who could do wonders with the money Vick had - It just pisses me off.

Having said all that, there is a hypocrasy in the NFL that I wish was covered more. That Leonard Little incident (while standing by the point I made) is fucking nuts, and Goodell not addressing it is a sign of this leagues complete cowardice.

...Fuckin' wrote a lot again, hah. Oh well.

Thats fine, if you don't like the Leonard Littel example (Pro Bowl DE), then how about Jamal Lewis. He just recently served time for a felony conviction relating to drug trafficing.

[scottsec]

Originally Posted by sandywh

Thats fine, if you don't like the Leonard Littel example (Pro Bowl DE), then how about Jamal Lewis. He just recently served time for a felony conviction relating to drug trafficing.

Little and Lewis were under Tagliabue...thats the difference