Should Vick be allowed to play football again?

[leedogg900]

mike vick should be punished and punished severly. i would like to see him get 7 or more years in the pen. i love animals and the thought of pitting dogs to fight against each to the death makes me angry. i hope one of the big inmates rapes him thoroughly up the ass for 3 years straight. and when he gets out of jail i hope he is banned from the nfl and forced to play in the CFL or banned altogether.

oh and i also want the inmates to hold him down one night and bite him, bite him all over so he feels the pain of the dogs

[Ubermensch]

And the Dilemma gets worse.

Pit bulls at Vick's house face deadline

By ZINIE CHEN SAMPSON, Associated Press Writer Wed Aug 22, 6:32 PM ET

RICHMOND, Va. - More than 50 pit bulls seized from Michael Vick's property face a Thursday deadline to be claimed. If no one comes forward, they could be euthanized.
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Federal prosecutors filed court documents last month to condemn 53 pit bulls seized in April as part of the investigation into dogfighting on the Vick's property. No one has claimed any of the dogs, which are being held at several unspecified shelters in eastern Virginia, the U.S. Attorney's office said Wednesday.

The civil complaint filed by federal prosecutors does not name the Atlanta Falcons quarterback and is separate from the criminal case against him. But it does state the pit bulls were part of the dogfighting operation known as "Bad Newz Kennels," which Vick and three cohorts are accused of operating.

Also included in the document are detailed allegations about the nature of the animals' training regimen and the dogfights occurring at Vick's property at 1915 Moonlight Road in Surry County.

The government filed three public civil forfeiture notices in a Richmond newspaper to publicize the dogs' confiscation, and the deadline for claims is 30 days after the appearance of the final notice, filed July 24.

Federal prosecutors declined to comment Wednesday on the seized dogs. Typically, when confiscated property goes unclaimed, the government asks the court to have the items declared forfeited. In this case, U.S. District Judge Henry E. Hudson will make the final decision on the dogs' fate.

"There's no dispute over who owns the dogs," said Daphna Nachminovitch, a spokeswoman for People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals. "Obviously this is not going to be a process where someone steps forward and says, 'This is my dog, can I have her back, please?' "

Though Hudson, who also is handling Vick's criminal case, will determine what becomes of the pit bulls, Nachminovitch said that it's likely that they will be euthanized because they're not adoptable as pets.

"These dogs are a ticking time bomb," she said. "Rehabilitating fighting dogs is not in the cards. It's widely accepted that euthanasia is the most humane thing for them."

Vick, 27, said through a lawyer this week that he will plead guilty to a federal charge of conspiracy to travel in interstate commerce in aid of unlawful activities and conspiracy to sponsor a dog in an animal fighting venture. He is scheduled to enter his plea agreement Monday and could face up to five years in prison.

Three Vick associates have pleaded guilty to the conspiracy charge and agreed to testify against him if the case went to trial. They said Vick provided virtually all the gambling and operating funds for the Bad Newz Kennels enterprise. Two of them also said Vick participated in executing at least eight underperforming dogs by various means, including drowning and hanging.

The locations of the shelters holding the dogs haven't been disclosed out of concern that the animals could be stolen, Nachminovitch said.

"They are a hot commodity in the world of dogfighting," she said.

Hey lets throw the ass hole in Jail (Which I agree with) then we can just kill all the dogs anyway??? Fuck what is up with our system???

[Mac]

Originally Posted by Ubermensch

And the Dilemma gets worse.



Hey lets throw the ass hole in Jail (Which I agree with) then we can just kill all the dogs anyway??? Fuck what is up with our system???

What else can they do with the dogs? Obviously they can't adopt them out. He should also face charges due to the fact they are going to have to put them all down.

I hope he gets gang-raped in prison. It will have to be by inmates who already have herpes though, or by ones who don't care if they get them.

[The Sundance Kid]

Originally Posted by sandywh

Absolutely Mike Vick should have the opportunity to play in the NFL. He does not deserve to have that right stripped away from him because of these charges or any jail time he may serve. Hell, Ray Lewis, and Lenard Little are still playing. However, I also think that the NFL owners should decide NOT to sign him.

I'm all for second chances, however I also come from the thought that we are all in charge of our own lives. That is until we break the rules, then we must live the rest of our lives at the "mercy" of society. There are no laws that say we have to hire cons. Some people do (for a variety of reasons), but noone is required to. We are not required to trust a proven liar, or any other wrong doer. And the same goes for Vick. He should be allowed to be reinstated, and then IF someone wants to take that risk, thats on them. But I personally wouldn't sign him, and I would not support any team that does.

Agreed. 100%

[CM PO]

Michael Vick playing in the NFL is like Abortion to me. Sure u should have that right, but i dunno if u should. Plus any NFL team deciding to sign him will have to battle the POWERFUL .P.E.T.A. organization. I dont think the NFL want any with em.

[Frasedog]

Absolutely he should get to play football again. I think all this talk is ridiculous. You want to throw the guy away for years and ban him from football over dogfighting? I like dogs but come on! Were talking about a sport (dogfighting) that in other countries is held in as high a regard as horse racing is here. Yeah its a felony. Yeah it's cruel. So fine the man. Give him a year in prison and move on.

[Mac]

Originally Posted by Frasedog

Absolutely he should get to play football again. I think all this talk is ridiculous. You want to throw the guy away for years and ban him from football over dogfighting? I like dogs but come on! Were talking about a sport (dogfighting) that in other countries is held in as high a regard as horse racing is here. Yeah its a felony. Yeah it's cruel. So fine the man. Give him a year in prison and move on.

You know canibalism is a practice in some societies, so the next guy to eat somebody should just get fined and a year or so in jail?

[Frasedog]

Originally Posted by Mac

You know canibalism is a practice in some societies, so the next guy to eat somebody should just get fined and a year or so in jail?

Let's put this into perspective. This has gotten more press than that whole family that was held captive, tortured and murdered (all except the husband) a while ago.

[Mac]

Originally Posted by Frasedog

Let's put this into perspective. This has gotten more press than that whole family that was held captive, tortured and murdered (all except the husband) a while ago.

Hey, I wish this wouldn't get so much press. It would be nice for them to just say Vick pleads guilty lets move on, but ESPN being what it is, they are going to examine every angle of this until it's dead.

[scottsec]

Originally Posted by Frasedog

Absolutely he should get to play football again. I think all this talk is ridiculous. You want to throw the guy away for years and ban him from football over dogfighting? I like dogs but come on! Were talking about a sport (dogfighting) that in other countries is held in as high a regard as horse racing is here. Yeah its a felony. Yeah it's cruel. So fine the man. Give him a year in prison and move on.

Exactly...Vick is a peice of shit but i would rather have Vick fighting dogs than driving drunk and no one gets a year in jail and suspended for a year for DUI....