I got to thinking last night about Randy Coutures contract situation and Fedor fight

maxp84z · #1 (**permalink**) 10-05-2008, 03:25 PM

Ok, now when Couture walked away from the UFC about a year ago, he still had 2 fights left with the company. What I was thinking if Couture would have just fought ONE more time, say against Nog and WON then among us hardcore fans I think we would all pretty much agree the only fight for Couture at that point is to face Fedor. So that would mean Randy has one fight left on his contract. Now with the championship clause in the UFC as long as you're champion your current contract already extends itself until you lose or are no longer UFC champion.

Now hear me out, If you're a fighter in the UFC you have the right to deny fights. KJ NOONS and War Machine exercised this right. Now say Couture is champion with one fight left and they offer him a fight against mir, lesnar, whoever he can just keep denying these fights till they give him Fedor. As long as Randy is still "with the company" that would be ok. That would really only leave the UFC with 3 options. A) release Couture B) Strip Couture of the title or C) allow Couture to be champion till 2020.

Now option A) would work out in Randys favor the best. He would then be released and able to pursue a fight against Fedor in another promotion. Option B) would also work out in Randys favor because it would erase the "championship clause" Randy would be left with ONE fight with the UFC and he can choose whoever he wants to fight, it could be a can or someone he can easily beat. The UFC could only freeze him out for so long. see AA. Option C) Now this is a pickle. If the UFC decides to play the war of attrition this could definately tie up Randy for some time. If Randy DID beat NOG I would agree with him that no other fight makes sense in his career other than to face Fedor. Randy is certaintly successful enough where he doesn't need to fight to make a living. This would tie up the belt for a while. Definately not in the UFCs best interest especially with the signing of big HW's like Lesnar.

Now would you see the UFC creating an Interim championship if Couture still stayed with the company??? I mean after he pretty much "walked out" got lawyers involved and said those bad things about the UFC that pretty much severed some ties and burned bridges. IF Randy would have handled it this way could you see the UFC buckling to work out a deal with Fedor? As far as I know, the Fedor fight is never going to happen. (or atleast happen in a timely manner) This would have been Randys last fight not just in the UFC but his career.

Honestly, I would think the UFC would give in eventually, I think they would keep offering him fights but after a year of that they would work out a deal with Fedor. This would have worked imo. Randy just didnt think it out very well. It also leads me to believe that the Fedor fight to Randy wasn't all that important and it was mainly a money issue. Especially with how Randy came crawling back to the UFC the way he did. Now Randy has to get past Lesnar and either NOG or MIR, but I'm pretty sure it's gonna be NOG. The road has only gotten harder for Randy and a fight with Fedor looks more distant than ever.

Moriason · #2 (**permalink**) 10-05-2008, 03:32 PM

Unless Affliction folds, Randy isn't fighting Fedor.

Get over it already people. That's a fact.

I don't even know why people have been entertaining this fight so long.

noahm · #3 (**permalink**) 10-05-2008, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by maxp84z

As far as I know, the Fedor fight is never going to happen. .

Yup. Good point.

maxp84z · #4 (**permalink**) 10-05-2008, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Moriason

Unless Affliction folds, Randy isn't fighting Fedor.

Get over it already people. That's a fact.

I made this thread to ask people if this plan would have worked to FORCE the UFCs hand into making this fight happen. I mean Randy is a fighter. Dana is a promoter/businessman. It's up to fuckin Dana to "work it out" in a sense. If not Randy should have been prepared to still be the current UFC heavyweight champion till 2025.

NebraskaMMAfan · #5 (**permalink**) 10-05-2008, 03:57 PM

Option C, because that's exactly what was happening.

maxp84z · #6 (**permalink**) 10-05-2008, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by NebraskaMMAfan

Option C, because that's exactly what was happening.

Then he should have just been ready to sit it out. Not a bad gig to be the UFC HW champion without ever having to defend it. The fans would be behind him 100 percent of the way. Imagine if whoever were to win the UFC interim HW championship if they did the same thing.... Would the UFC then create an interim HW championship #2 belt? Ya know if it works like this... "Hey I want a fight with Fedor" UFC says "NO" Then the UFC says "We want you to fight Mir" Then Randy says "NO" and adds... "I can play the no game just like you" hahahaha puts the fighters in the drivers seat for once. Honestly for Randy to say "A fight with Fedor is the only fight that makes sense to me" He should have stuck to his fuckin word or never have said that in the first place.

THE UFC would give in after a while. I mean, what if Lesnar were to win the interim belt, and decide after a few wins, that hey I want this fedor guy to. it would FORCE the UFC to make the fight happen.

It's funny because the only force preventing this fight from happening is the UFC. Someone really needs to stick it to em.

VimyRidge · #7 (**permalink**) 10-05-2008, 04:20 PM

"Fedor is the only fight that makes sense ...."

I like Couture, but it is not like he is undefeated, and only fighting the best fighter in the world is his only option, he has lost to a lot of people and there are a lot of fights that still made sense in the heavyweight division. He beat a Timmy who had a bad back injury and a good, but not great fighter in Gonzaga. Hoping for Couture in the Brock fight, but think Randy is going to get violated.

maxp84z · #8 (**permalink**) 10-05-2008, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by VimyRidge

"Fedor is the only fight that makes sense ...."

I like Couture, but it is not like he is undefeated, and only fighting the best fighter in the world is his only option, he has lost to a lot of people and there are a lot of fights that still made sense in the heavyweight division. He beat a Timmy who had a bad back injury and a good, but not great fighter in Gonzaga. Hoping for Couture in the Brock fight, but think Randy is going to get violated.

Oh I agree with you... His win over an injured Timmy was less than stellar. HE couldnt even finish an injured Timmy. Say what you want about Tim and his style but the guy is easily top 5 HW in the world. His record speaks for itself. As for Gonzaga, yeah he's not that great and still relatively new. He pretty much fought a beaten crocop before the horn even started. I was saying IF he were to beat NOG, then i'd grant him the right to only want Fedor.

Even still Nog hasnt been looking to impressive in the UFC. He almost lost to Heath Hearing and Timmy was pretty much dominating the fight till he was craddled up and subbed. STILL, if Randy were to beat Nog and he only had ONE fight left in the UFC, I could see his reasoning as to ONLY wanting Fedor and the UFC having to grant his final request.

thumper · #9 (**permalink**) 10-05-2008, 04:34 PM

uh... 'timmy' is barely in the top 10 and that's a gift.

But you're right. his record speaks for itself. he's 1 and 3 in his last 4 fights. He's not the same guy he thinks he is anymore.

maxp84z · #10 (**permalink**) 10-05-2008, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by thumper

uh... 'timmy' is barely in the top 10 and that's a gift.

But you're right. his record speaks for itself. he's 1 and 3 in his last 4 fights. He's not the same guy he thinks he is anymore.

When he fought Nog he was top 5... after his losses to Nog and Fedor that definately bumped him down the ladder.

but what I wanna know is if you think this plan could have worked???? To give us the Fedor fight? If Randy would have stayed with the company, still on the broadcast team, asking for the Fedor fight constantly, the UFC would have gave in... Instead he walks out, trashes the UFC and takes em to court.... YOU ATTRACT MORE BEE'S WITH HONEY RANDY!!! you heard of that saying kill them with kindness? well it works.