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Who said you are changing your tune? You've always been full of shit...

And no way can anyone honestly say GSP is a better fighter then Penn... GSP is a better athlete and a better competitor but he is not a better fighter... not only does their fight prove that but every fight they have fought has proved that... If there was no time limits on fights there is no way GSP could beat Penn. You can't lay and pray forever.

As far as Sherk... why should he get the benifit of the doubt? Because he won't admit he cheated? Do you think OJ is innocent as well?
If Bj is as good as you say he would be unbeatable. In case you didnt know GSP did beat Bj. GSP didnt lay and pray 2 a decision either. He won the 2nd and dominated the 3 round. I wish the fight would have went 5 rounds so I could have see GSP beat Bj into submission. The greatest fighter in the world has no conditioning incase you didnt know. Bj might be a better in Bjj then GSP but he is not a better wrestler or have better cardio.

Im sure your going to make an excuse for Bj like everyone else about how he is so much better condition now. The one thing I do think that BJ has over GSP is mental toughness. I wish they would fight again so GSP could win again with no doubts for all you Bj lovers.

Sherk passed a lie detector test and barely tested positive for steroids. Compare his very low positive test to that Royce Gracies. Hmm no comparision huh? Sherk had the weakest positive test and even the athletic comission agreed so thats why he wasnt suspended longer.

Soon we will see Sherk beat Bj. It wont go to a lay and pray decision either. Bj will be to tired by the 3 round to make it another 2 rounds. I wonder what excuse you will make for Bj then?? We will fight out who the better fighter is for sure on May 24.

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If Bj is as good as you say he would be unbeatable. In case you didnt know GSP did beat Bj. GSP didnt lay and pray 2 a decision either. He won the 2nd and dominated the 3 round. I wish the fight would have went 5 rounds so I could have see GSP beat Bj into submission. The greatest fighter in the world has no conditioning incase you didnt know. Bj might be a better in Bjj then GSP but he is not a better wrestler or have better cardio.
In all four losses Penn was the better fighter... I bet you haven't even watch all his losses to actually make an accurate assesment.

GSP won the copetition, but Penn clearly won the fight... GSP had to go to the hospital after their fight and Penn got to go party with his friends. Penn is easily the better fighter. He is a much better striker, light-years ahead of GSP as fars as GSP, and yes I'll GSP the edge in wrestling but Penn has much better takedown defense and even took GSP down when was totally gassed.

Besides the GSP fight name one fight where Penn gassed? Penn has fought 2 five round fights... GSP has not, and GSP also looked like he gassed in their fight as well.

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Im sure your going to make an excuse for Bj like everyone else about how he is so much better condition now. The one thing I do think that BJ has over GSP is mental toughness. I wish they would fight again so GSP could win again with no doubts for all you Bj lovers.
I think you need to learn what an "excuse" is... I know you are mildly retarded, but surely you are capable of learning basic english phrases.

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Sherk passed a lie detector test and barely tested positive for steroids. Compare his very low positive test to that Royce Gracies. Hmm no comparision huh? Sherk had the weakest positive test and even the athletic comission agreed so thats why he wasnt suspended longer.
You do realize that lie-detecor test are inconclusive and don't really mean shit compared to actually failing a drug test? Having a low level only means that he was cylcing out a cycle, but obvioulsy didn't time it right.

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Soon we will see Sherk beat Bj. It wont go to a lay and pray decision either. Bj will be to tired by the 3 round to make it another 2 rounds. I wonder what excuse you will make for Bj then?? We will fight out who the better fighter is for sure on May 24.

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I can't wait to laugh at your stupid ass as usual.
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I've gone back and forth in thinking if he did roid or not and haven't really came to a conclusion lol. Nevertheless, pictures can be deceiving... I think we should leave our judgment until May 23rd, the day of the weigh ins.

Honestly, if he doesn't look as big as he used to (at the next fight), you have to think he was cycling. There is no other reason why he would lose that muscle now. People usually lose muscle to up their endurance or their speed....two departments in which Sherk wasn't lacking from before and areas where he definitely has the edge on BJ.
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I'm almost 6'7 so 255 on me is not a stretch. And i have really never been accused but I am sure it would suck.But the fact of the matter is I would never test positive, but lets just say it was contaminated in my next fight you would see me the exact same size because I would change nothing. So you are right in the fact we will have to wait and see what he looks like at the fight. To me though he has lost tons of muscle mass he looks leaned out.And thats coming from a body builder point of view. I work hard as hell to be my size, and I know that the more cardio I do the more I have to eat and work to maintain muscle mass. I also know 2 people who work at my gym that are on roids and they show no signs of them at all. When one of them did go off them for 6 months he looked lean like Sherk does now so. He just didn't have the bulky mass anymore.
Yeah, from your pics, you looked to be a big dude. I asked, because a bunch of us have posted pictures of ourselves on the user picture page. I posted 2 pictures of myself. They were different poses / angles / posts etc... and right away one jackass asks if it is my before and after picture for roids. So I did my best to set him straight and said that that is how Sherk must feel, so I am not putting too much stock in one picture that was chosen with an obviously biased agenda.

I too have seen and known guys who were on the juice, so I totally know that whole "popped balloon" look. If that is how Sherk shows up at weigh ins, I will say "yeah, looks like he was on something". Guess we will see on the 23rd.
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If Bj is as good as you say he would be unbeatable. In case you didnt know GSP did beat Bj. GSP didnt lay and pray 2 a decision either. He won the 2nd and dominated the 3 round. I wish the fight would have went 5 rounds so I could have see GSP beat Bj into submission. The greatest fighter in the world has no conditioning incase you didnt know. Bj might be a better in Bjj then GSP but he is not a better wrestler or have better cardio.

Im sure your going to make an excuse for Bj like everyone else about how he is so much better condition now. The one thing I do think that BJ has over GSP is mental toughness. I wish they would fight again so GSP could win again with no doubts for all you Bj lovers.

Sherk passed a lie detector test and barely tested positive for steroids. Compare his very low positive test to that Royce Gracies. Hmm no comparision huh? Sherk had the weakest positive test and even the athletic comission agreed so thats why he wasnt suspended longer.

Soon we will see Sherk beat Bj. It wont go to a lay and pray decision either. Bj will be to tired by the 3 round to make it another 2 rounds. I wonder what excuse you will make for Bj then?? We will fight out who the better fighter is for sure on May 24.

War Sherk!!!
First, it doesn't matter how "positive" the test was or if it was knowingly or unknowingly..... If its a little or its a lot... or if he knew it or he didn't....He is still guilty. Period. You can compare it to Gracie all you want...But it doesn't mean shit. Sherk still tested positive which means it had an UNNATURAL amount in his body.... He must have just cycled off a little too late....Oh well..All that stuff aside....

The only thing I can say about your post is....Holy Shit, what ever your smoking ....We could all use some....

I mean....Listen...we all know there is NOTHING guaranteed in MMA...BUT...if there was ever a fight as close to being a 100% stone cold lead pipe dead ass on the money gurantee in the history of MMA....It is this one...and it is definitely BJ beating Sherks ass.

Penn trumps Sherk in literally EVERY aspect of MMA.

Sherks wrestling and stalling ability should get him into the second round...Penn via stoppage rd. 2
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A quick breakdown of how long various forms of steroids are detectable in your system.

To be diplomatic, I'm not saying he was on steroids for the Florian fight...or I suppose the Franca fight for that matter...but when timed right, a person could use steroids up to just a few weeks before a bout and still come up "clean" in the post-fight drug test.
Not with Deca-Durabolin
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Not with Deca-Durabolin
Exactly. Deca usually stays in your system for 12 to 18 months. That coupled with the small amount in his system, just doesn't add up. So if he wasn't dirty for the Diaz or Florian fights, and he actually used for the Franca fight would his test have been a hell of a lot higher.

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A quick breakdown of how long various forms of steroids are detectable in your system.

how long will it stay in your system @ Steroidstation.com

To be diplomatic, I'm not saying he was on steroids for the Florian fight...or I suppose the Franca fight for that matter...but when timed right, a person could use steroids up to just a few weeks before a bout and still come up "clean" in the post-fight drug test.
8-Bit Riot, you even posted the link to the timetable that says that it stays in your system for 12-18 months. So when you say you could use up until a week before your test and pass, you are crazy, or just didn't read it. If you want to take Clenbuterol and burn some weight and mess up your system, you might get away with it. Deca / Nandrolone is the hardest one to get out of your system.
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ONLY A MORON would ask for a comparison in a picture in which he is FLEXING and another he is RELAXED!! If you want a comparison post 2 Flexing pics u dumbshit!

Slow it down a bit. Keep things clean if you would like to continue posting here.
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