Mike Van Arsdale vs. Tito Ortiz

killerinstinct · #1 (**permalink**) 07-12-2006, 04:40 AM

Both have tasted defeat and victory who would win? I'd take Mike. Randy Couture said that Mike was the greatest wrestler he's ever fought and Randy spanked Tito so....I'd put my money on Mike.

I hate comparing guys like that though b/c mma isn't a math equation just b/c one guy beat this guy doesn't meant that guy is going to beat some other guy.

NinjaShogunRua · #2 (**permalink**) 07-12-2006, 05:02 AM

Van Arsdale is on a major skid losing his last 4 fights. I'd take Tito.

matto · #3 (**permalink**) 07-13-2006, 12:28 AM

id say tito but im not sure he would finish the fight, im tired of waiting for a decision nearly all of his fights recently, except for the shamrock one of course

killerinstinct · #4 (**permalink**) 07-14-2006, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by NinjaShogunRua

Van Arsdale is on a major skid losing his last 4 fights. I'd take Tito.

That's true ,but the last 2 wrestlers Tito fought he got dominated-Chuck and Randy.Now Mike is no Chuck or Randy ,but in Mike's fight with Randy there were more scrambles and was a lot closer fight than the 5 round domination of Tito by Randy.Randy said that Mike was the best wrestler he's fought and that means a lot coming from Randy.I'll take Mike even if he has been on a losing streak.

supermark21 · #5 (**permalink**) 07-14-2006, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by killerinstinct

That's true ,but the last 2 wrestlers Tito fought he got dominated-Chuck and Randy.Now Mike is no Chuck or Randy ,but in Mike's fight with Randy there were more scrambles and was a lot closer fight than the 5 round domination of Tito by Randy.Randy said that Mike was the best wrestler he's fought and that means a lot coming from Randy.I'll take Mike even if he has been on a losing streak.

your right- when tito cant take a guy down he has a big problem. mike isnt a fighter that tito can open up with strikes either. tito will be ok if saul gets him ready to stand up with these guys

matto · #6 (**permalink**) 07-16-2006, 01:21 AM

i just saw the mike vs. randy fight and mike and randy were closley matched when it came to wrestling, both world class. chuck isnt primarilly consitered a wrestler, he is a good wrestler with excellent takedown defence but is listed as a striker because he favors the striking, which makes for a leathle combination, people who like the fights on the ground will have a very very hard time with chuck trying to take him down, but they best shot for somebody to beat chuck is to beat him at his own game, somebody who is better then chuck at striking, which would be very hard to find, but thats y wand vs. chuck will be so good, they both want it on the feet, id hate to see eaither one of them lose, it will be a good fight and reguardless who wins im sure their will be a rematch and if it ties up then there will be a rubber match, if the first fight is a good fight they u can probably expect to see 1 or 2 more fights between them, depending who wins the second fight, but im sure wand will want to face tito to shut him the hell up, that damm trashtalker.

killerinstinct · #7 (**permalink**) 07-16-2006, 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by matto

i just saw the mike vs. randy fight and mike and randy were closley matched when it came to wrestling, both world class. chuck isnt primarilly consitered a wrestler, he is a good wrestler with excellent takedown defence but is listed as a striker because he favors the striking, which makes for a leathle combination, people who like the fights on the ground will have a very very hard time with chuck trying to take him down, but they best shot for somebody to beat chuck is to beat him at his own game, somebody who is better then chuck at striking, which would be very hard to find, but thats y wand vs. chuck will be so good, they both want it on the feet, id hate to see eaither one of them lose, it will be a good fight and reguardless who wins im sure their will be a rematch and if it ties up then there will be a rubber match, if the first fight is a good fight they u can probably expect to see 1 or 2 more fights between them, depending who wins the second fight, but im sure wand will want to face tito to shut him the hell up, that damm trashtalker.

just curious who's your pick in this fight?You didn't really state it and BTW Chuck is a wrestler.His fighting style maybe Kickboxing ,but he's considered a wrestler.

matto · #8 (**permalink**) 07-16-2006, 01:36 AM

thats a tough one, eaither tito gets wasted by the superior or he would attempt to ground and pound, but of couse wouldnt finish it and go to decision, fuckin ass hole, he claims that wand left because of him, im sure wand was upset by losing by decision when tito bascially just was trying to hit him from gaurd. i want to see him get ko'ed by chuck and wand.

ArMnHC · #9 (**permalink**) 07-17-2006, 03:23 AM

Tito, Tito, and um Tito!!!

matto · #10 (**permalink**) 07-17-2006, 05:12 AM

mike is an excellent wrestler but maybe he was just not meant for mma.