Lyoto Machida Vs. Brandon Vera @205

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Originally Posted by Dork8503

Machida is a stud and only person i believe beats him right now is Wandy because Wandy will bum rush his ass and imo Lyoto doesn't like that.

I think Rogerio and Randy Couture at 205 would beat Lyoto, Wandy has the best chance out of the UFC's current roster. I think The Janitor could also pose a threat to him


Vera's speed advantages wouldn't exist at 205 like they do at heavyweight, I can't see him winning.

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i see lyoto winning by run and gun. he won't stand and trade, and vera won't be able to figure his style out within three rounds.

[Dork8503]

Originally Posted by neonatural45

I think Rogerio and Randy Couture at 205 would beat Lyoto, Wandy has the best chance out of the UFC's current roster. I think The Janitor could also pose a threat to him


Vera's speed advantages wouldn't exist at 205 like they do at heavyweight, I can't see him winning.

I don't see how the Janitor has a chance. I mean Lyoto stopped Titos shots with very little effort.

When Lyoto was stuffing those shots it looked like he wasn't even trying.

Randy at 205 maybe but i doubt that too.

Lyoto has already showed imo very good tdd and it is only going to get better.

Plus he would never fight Nog.

I think Wandy's style is the best to dethrone Lyoto because he has never dealt with someone who is going to bum rush his ass throwing fucking haymakers that have murder written all over them.

I actually think a fight with Rampage will show so much. Rampage has good striking, take downs, power, and defense.

I don't know how Vera would do at 205 but i would imagine he would be faster then he is at HW. I say this because the weight he would lose wouldn't be hard for him to drop, i mean he said he eats oreo's an shit all the time. He has no real diet.

IMO Vera could drop 20-25lbs without really no strain on his body.

Vera eats the way he does so he can gain weight.

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Lyoto

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I have the same view on Machida as dork

The only fighter who can beat him is Wandy

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I think Babalu should go on the list of possible people to beat Lyoto too


and Vladmir IMO has much better takedowns then Tito


and Randy wouldn't beat Lyoto by putting him on his back, he would beat him in the clinch

[Dork8503]

Originally Posted by neonatural45

I think Babalu should go on the list of possible people to beat Lyoto too


and Vladmir IMO has much better takedowns then Tito


and Randy wouldn't beat Lyoto by putting him on his back, he would beat him in the clinch

Babalu has amazing bjj but his take downs are not great.

sure Vlad has better take downs then Tito but not much better and Tito never even came close to take Lyoto down. In fact Lyoto shrugged Tito off like a bitch.

Imo Vlad is a lesser fighter then Tito.

He is just a lay n pray fighter

I didn't say Randy couldn't beat Lyoto, i just said i don't think he can.

You underestimate Lyoto way to much.

I guess its going to take him beating Rampage for you to see how good he is. Well even then I am sure you will still say lesser fighters will beat him.

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Originally Posted by Dork8503

Babalu has amazing bjj but his take downs are not great.

sure Vlad has better take downs then Tito but not much better and Tito never even came close to take Lyoto down. In fact Lyoto shrugged Tito off like a bitch.

Imo Vlad is a lesser fighter then Tito.

He is just a lay n pray fighter

I didn't say Randy couldn't beat Lyoto, i just said i don't think he can.

You underestimate Lyoto way to much.

I guess its going to take him beating Rampage for you to see how good he is. Well even then I am sure you will still say lesser fighters will beat him.

Well that logic doesn't work there, because I would take him in a fight against Rampage by decision. I just think that Babalu is underrated (you did just say the south american and pan-am wrestling champ has bad takedowns btw). His wrestling creds are much better then Tito's, and his striking is underrated... BJJ 2nd best at that weight class. We saw how close Tito came to subbing Lyoto, I think Babalu does it (he has sick triangles), and watch Babalu's fight with Sonnen to see his wrestling skills.


I would take Lyoto in a fight against Wandy, I think Lyoto is better on the ground and would pull out a decision similar to how Arona beat Wandy the first time. If it stays standing I would give it to Wandy.

Vladmir is the real deal, and IMO his style isn't as much LnP as it seems. He dominated Tim Boetsch, and I would take him against Tito in a rematch (he couldn't cut to 205 when they fought last, looked very tired)


Im not underestimating Lyoto, I would probably take him in a fight against Shogun (who I think is the best in the world, top 10 p4p) just becuase of the style matchup. Would be a close fight though

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Originally Posted by neonatural45

Well that logic doesn't work there, because I would take him in a fight against Rampage by decision. I just think that Babalu is underrated (you did just say the south american and pan-am wrestling champ has bad takedowns btw). His wrestling creds are much better then Tito's, and his striking is underrated... BJJ 2nd best at that weight class. We saw how close Tito came to subbing Lyoto, I think Babalu does it (he has sick triangles), and watch Babalu's fight with Sonnen to see his wrestling skills.


I would take Lyoto in a fight against Wandy, I think Lyoto is better on the ground and would pull out a decision similar to how Arona beat Wandy the first time. If it stays standing I would give it to Wandy.

Vladmir is the real deal, and IMO his style isn't as much LnP as it seems. He dominated Tim Boetsch, and I would take him against Tito in a rematch (he couldn't cut to 205 when they fought last, looked very tired)


Im not underestimating Lyoto, I would probably take him in a fight against Shogun (who I think is the best in the world, top 10 p4p) just becuase of the style matchup. Would be a close fight though

Maybe i haven't seen enough of Babalu's wrestling. But from what i have seen it isn't the best. But his bjj imo is very damn good.

IMO Babalu is a hot an cold fighter, when he is on, damn he is on. But when he doesn't want to show up he just performs like trash.

I just don't think Vlad has what it takes to beat Lyoto or even come close to beating him, and i think Vlad is a good fighter.

Beating Botech isn't really that impressive. I mean Hamill did it, and i don't think much of him lol.

I don't think a wrestler is going to beat him. Its going to have to be some one that knocks him out imo.

They are going to need to bum rush him with shit you can't train for. I mean if Wandy can do that an lock a clinch in, imo their is really no one at 205 that can survive full on multiple knees to the face from Wandy.