Matt Serra vs. Sean Sherk

[Problematique]

Sherk;
Good wrestling
Strong
Fast
Fast hands but not powerful
Great cardio

Serra;
Great BJJ
Powerful hands but not as fast as Sherks
Decent cardio
Poor wrestling
Great mental confidence

Well I don't like either but I can't choose a winner.

[The Sundance Kid]

Originally Posted by killerinstinct

Matt Serra stood toe to toe with BJ Penn for 3 rounds and was never really badly hurt and the fight honestly could've gone either way and now someone thinks that Sean Sherk is going to come in and knock Serra out in the first round? Sean Sherk has never been known for his KO power. I think he has underrated standup and good combos, but his punches don't have a lot of explosiveness on them. Sherk isn't going to be knocking a lot of guys out, especially not someone as skilled as Matt Serra.

Hell I thought Serra won that fight, but I still think Sherk takes him at LW or WW.

[Dork8503]

Originally Posted by dmc_tim

a fights a fight, anything can happen, sherks a different fighter, with a way better record than GSP even though gsp beat sherk before, doesnt mean sherk cant knock serra out in the first.

What does Sherk having more fights then GSP have anything to do with it. Sherk may have 40 fights or so but its the caliber of fighters you face that makes your record worth a damn imo. Sherk has way more fights, but GSP has beaten the best.


I'm not being sarcastic but has Sherk ever knocked anyone out in the first round.

[dmc_tim]

Originally Posted by killerinstinct

Matt Serra stood toe to toe with BJ Penn for 3 rounds and was never really badly hurt and the fight honestly could've gone either way and now someone thinks that Sean Sherk is going to come in and knock Serra out in the first round? Sean Sherk has never been known for his KO power. I think he has underrated standup and good combos, but his punches don't have a lot of explosiveness on them. Sherk isn't going to be knocking a lot of guys out, especially not someone as skilled as Matt Serra.

so against matt hughes and GSP matt serra has no chance in hell, but against sherk somehow he has now become skilled, lets not forget sherks record is something like 35-3 compared to serras 16-5. sherk has 8 TKO's to his record and 14 sumbissions, so i guess i should have said he has a better chance of submitting serra. but thats not to say sherk couldnt ko him in the 1st with his explosiveness. serra only has 4 subs and 1 TKO to his record so i dont see how serra could beat sherk. also if sherk hadnt retired , he probably would have beat GSP IMO. but go ahead and neg me for sayin that too.

[neonatural45]

Originally Posted by dmc_tim

so against matt hughes and GSP matt serra has no chance in hell, but against sherk somehow he has now become skilled, lets not forget sherks record is something like 35-3 compared to serras 16-5. sherk has 8 TKO's to his record and 14 sumbissions, so i guess i should have said he has a better chance of submitting serra. but thats not to say sherk couldnt ko him in the 1st with his explosiveness. serra only has 4 subs and 1 TKO to his record so i dont see how serra could beat sherk. also if sherk hadnt retired , he probably would have beat GSP IMO. but go ahead and neg me for sayin that too.

So Sherk has a good chance of KOing or subbing (that one I found very funny) Serra becuase Sherk has fought more cans and therefore has a very padded record? Really?

[Ubermensch]

I am going to say Serra he can take a hit better than Sherk and he is great off his back. Sherk will not be able to GNP Serra as easily as he does with many. This will be a good fight and one I think is a true matchup!!

[killerinstinct]

Originally Posted by dmc_tim

so against matt hughes and GSP matt serra has no chance in hell, but against sherk somehow he has now become skilled, lets not forget sherks record is something like 35-3 compared to serras 16-5. sherk has 8 TKO's to his record and 14 sumbissions, so i guess i should have said he has a better chance of submitting serra. but thats not to say sherk couldnt ko him in the 1st with his explosiveness. serra only has 4 subs and 1 TKO to his record so i dont see how serra could beat sherk. also if sherk hadnt retired , he probably would have beat GSP IMO. but go ahead and neg me for sayin that too.

I'll tell you what, I'm going to hold back my anger and I'm not going to belittle you for your ignorance. Instead I'm going to explain to you how ignorant your opinion really is.

To say that Matt Serra has no chance in hell against Hughes or GSP is ridiculous, especially when considering the fact that Serra already holds a win against GSP. Now I agree that Serra is definitely over matched against GSP and would probably drop a decision to Matt Hughes, but that doesn't mean "he wouldn't have a chance in hell against these competitors." Matt Serra has heavy hands and a great ground game. Matt Serra has a chance against anyone he fights, to say otherwise is just stupid.

What else is stupid is to say that Sherk would submit Serra. Serra has world class jiu-jitsu. Matt Serra isn't going to be submitted by a Sean Sherk. If Sherk couldn't finish Florian or Franca what makes you think he's going to finish Serra? Let alone finish him with a submission.

You say that Sherk could KO Serra with his explosiveness and while I'll admit he has some explosive takedowns, he doesn't have explosive standup. He has good standup in my opinion, underrated standup, but he's not really known for his punching power to say the least.

Also you keep mentioning their records, but a fighters record isn't the end all be all. Take Randy Couture for instance, everyone considers him to be one of the greatest fighters to ever compete in the sport and his record (win/loss percentage wise) doesn't look as pretty as someone like Diego Sanchez's. That doesn't mean Randy isn't a great fighter. It's not just about your record it's also about the quality of the opposition you have faced and in my opinion Serra has faced the tougher opposition.

Also I really don't see how Sherk would do any better against GSP in a rematch than he did last time. I mean let's look at the check list.

GSP has better
Standup (check)
wrestling (check)
strength (check)
jiu-jitsu (check)
conditioning (just as good or better)

Yeah I think it's safe to say that GSP would win the rematch.

[Killinginthenameof]

i give it to sherk. sherk has fought tougher opponents and he's faster with his hands. no doubt serra has the bjj edge but the question here should be "can serra get sherk on the mat?"

didn't sherk beat karo twice and karo beat serra? that rational doesn't always translate....that's why there are fights.....or as berman says "that's why they play the games". i'm just saying sherk's has a stellar record vs better opponents.

[killerinstinct]

Originally Posted by Killinginthenameof

i give it to sherk. sherk has fought tougher opponents and he's faster with his hands. no doubt serra has the bjj edge but the question here should be "can serra get sherk on the mat?"

didn't sherk beat karo twice and karo beat serra? that rational doesn't always translate....that's why there are fights.....or as berman says "that's why they play the games". i'm just saying sherk's has a stellar record vs better opponents.

Sherk's fights against Karo are supposedly controversial. There's a lot of people who feel Karo should've won the first fight and that he was winning the 2nd fight, but took the fight on short notice or something like that. I've never seen these fights myself so I can't really comment too much on it, but I can say that if the fight was close it does seem logical that Sherk would have an edge in the judges eyes seeing as how Sherk is from the midwest and these fights took place in the midwest.

[WinnipegRush]

Sean Tko.

AND ALSO STOP WITH THE SERRA DREAM FIGHTS DAMN