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05-20-2008, 09:22 AM
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Who Wins, GSP or Fitch - Silva or Okami
These 2 fights have yet to be officially announced but we all know they are on the horizon. So it's never too early to start breaking them down.
In my opinion, besides the GSP-Serra fights, these 2 main events haven't been this lopsided for favorites in quite a while.
GSP vs Fitch
I don't see Fitch being able to do anything with GSP at all. Sure Fitch is 8-0 in his UFC career but there's a reason he was in the first match of the night on the last card he was a part of. His fights are usually dry and not alot going on. I was as shocked as anyone when he beat Diego and he deserves all the credit for what he's done so far, but I don't see him even coming close to beating GSP. This guy is turning the corner into his prime and is going to be dangerous at WW.
Silva-Okami
Go ahead and cut and paste everything I said about Fitch for Okami. And I would say Silva is alot better than GSP. I see this one being over quick. Okami, in my opinion should thank his lucky stars that there are no soccer kicks or foot stomps in this fight. I see Silva connecting with a shot and pounding him out.
The UFC should put both of these fights on the same card to try to sell them both together. I don't see either fight being able to sell PPVs by itself. UFC 88: Merciless Beating would be a fitting title . . . IMO.
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05-20-2008, 10:03 AM
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GSP could sell a PPV on his own at this point, his star is getting that big.
I see Fitch doing enough not to get KO'ed but i'm just not able to see how he would win this fight and I like Fitch.
Okami will put up a better fight against Silva than he's getting credit for, don't get me wrong. . he will get stopped. But I think he will at least get out of the first round.
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05-20-2008, 10:04 AM
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I don't think its that lopsided. Jon Fitch is a better than average fighter and will pose more of a threat to GSP than Okami will to Silva.
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05-20-2008, 10:09 AM
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GSP and Fitch is not going to be as good of a fight as people may think it is. St. Pierre is the superior athlete and fighter by a good margin at this point. Fitch is a good wrestler, but GSP will negate that with his athleticism and take down defense, then use his dynamic striking to stop Fitch at some point in the fight. What I really want to see is Penn and GSP II. That would be a barn-burner.
Okami will take Silva down at some point, land a few strikes, then be submitted by a rear naked choke.
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05-20-2008, 10:22 AM
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Ill be cheering for Fitch, but I think he has more to prove in that fight that whats already been proven.. I dont see him going into the fight with much of an advantage.. GSP may not be a great striker, but hes shown better striking ability then Fitch has.. hes shown better wrestling then Fitch has.. and the BJJ game between the two is a wash.. on top of that GSP seems to have the edge in strength and athleticism too..
Not saying Fitch cant win and that hes clearly outmatched but I think hes gonna have to bring a game that he hasnt in any of his previous fights to beat GSP.. what im saying is.. prior to this fight Fitch is not the better wrestler but he could go into this fight and prove that wrong, and outwrestle GSP.. IMO hes gonna have to in order to beat him.. simply improve his wrestling game beyond GSPs and considering hes a collegiate wrestler from Purdue im sure he can train himself to that level.. we'll see though.. but IMO wrestling will be the key for him.. not striking, or BJJ.
Okami vs Silva.. we seem to over-credit Silva on these boards... great fighter.. one the Top 3 P4P fighters for sure.. but we seem to ignore his weaknesses a lot on this forum just because hes such a great fighter..
Anderson Silva in every fight has to overcome his weaknesses.. unlike GSP who goes into fights with tons of edges and rarely has to overcome anything.. where in GSP's case its his opponent who has to overcome there weaknesses.. thats not the case with Silva.. every fight hes been in.. hes had to struggle with the ground game.. and hes fighting another fighter who can take him to the ground
Now, I think in a fight.. Henderson would beat Okami.. but its not a sure thing cuz Hendo could have another Misaki moment.. but vs Silva.. Okami has a better chance IN THIS PARTICULAR FIGHT
I know im writing alot here but, just listen lol Okami's best chance at beating Silva comes now and heres why..
Okami has fought Silva before.. he knows how Silva fights, hes felt it.. that helps a lot in a fight
Not only that, Okami may not be the wrestler Henderson is.. but hes got Henderson's mistakes to study from.. as well as his own.
Okami is a Judo/Wrestler fighter.. many many different ways to take his opponent down on top of that the Judo aspect of his game helps with the grappling.. something Hendo didnt have once he got to the ground.. the Judo aspect is gonna help (not saying it will prevent) fend off A Silva's BJJ game
Now heres the icebreaker for me in this fight.. if you watch the first Anderson Silva/Okami fight.. A Silva has come along way from that fight.. he went from decent fighter to champ no doubt.. but Okami.. he completely changed everything about him.. he was a skinnnny japanese fighter in that first fight, now hes strong as hell and in much, much better shape so.. to me Okami is facing a similar Anderson Silva from the first fight.. and Anderson Silva is facing a completely different Yushin Okami.. thats gonna make a difference.
I am not picking Okami though, I want him to win.. I like him more.. but im gonna stick with the hot hand for now.
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05-20-2008, 10:38 AM
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I'd bank on GSP stopping Fitch early in round 3, and Silva stopping Okami midway through round 2.
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05-20-2008, 10:44 AM
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Now heres the icebreaker for me in this fight.. if you watch the first Anderson Silva/Okami fight.. A Silva has come along way from that fight.. he went from decent fighter to champ no doubt.. but Okami.. he completely changed everything about him.. he was a skinnnny japanese fighter in that first fight, now hes strong as hell and in much, much better shape so.. to me Okami is facing a similar Anderson Silva from the first fight.. and Anderson Silva is facing a completely different Yushin Okami.. thats gonna make a difference.
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I was actually going to point this out until you did. Mind you I still think Anderson will beat him, but Okami is MUCH different than what he was before.
Also with GSP/Fitch, as unbiased as possible I see GSP walking away with this one. Fitch mention how GSP hasn't faced anyone as "gritty, or as in your face" as Fitch, but I still think GSP has the edge in the striking department, and I really think after Hughes II/III nothing Fitch can throw at GSP in terms of any wrestling or grappling will be very effective. I think GSP will negate anything that Fitch will try in terms of wrestling. I'm not taking anything away from Fitch, but I really think this wont be as big a challenge for GSP as everyone says.
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05-20-2008, 10:45 AM
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At the same time though, GSP has never faced a wrestler as well-rounded as Fitch thats also as big as GSP too.. so its like I said going into the fight GSP looks to be the better wrestler, but once hes faced a collegiate guy whos the same size as him.. ya never know.. Fitch might leave the fight proving he is the better wrestler.. if he is the better wrestler, he'll win IMO cuz I dont think GSP is gonna get off of Fitch enough times to win if he gets outwrestled.
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05-20-2008, 02:50 PM
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GSP will beat Fitch and Silva would beat Okami by TKO.
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05-20-2008, 03:31 PM
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Why is this in the Dream Match Forum??????????
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