Mike Tyson vs Kimbo

[The Sundance Kid]

Most people said that Mercer would Knock Kimbo out.

Most people will say that Tyson would knock Kimbo out.

I still think that Kimbo would beat Tyson in an MMA fight.

and Kimbo is going to demolish Thompson.

[Masscore]

Originally Posted by The Sundance Kid

Most people said that Mercer would Knock Kimbo out.

Most people will say that Tyson would knock Kimbo out.

I still think that Kimbo would beat Tyson in an MMA fight.

and Kimbo is going to demolish Thompson.

I know Thompson isn't anything great and hell has a bad chin which means Kimbo should have a field day. But he has been in fights with far better fighters then Kimbo and given them runs for their money and even beaten a few.

Thompson via KO

[Afro]

Mike Tyson Pre-Rooney was far and wide above Ray Mercer sure.. but after that, there is no comparison.. Tyson became a bum in boxing.. losing to Danny Williams by KO.. losing to Kevin McBride by TKO.. two fighters Ray Mercer would of floored..

Ray Mercer gave Evander fits, gave Lennox Lewis fits.. he wasnt a chump by any means..

you cant take the part of Tyson' career that was legendary, and was what made him one of the greats of all-time and apply it to today.. he is so far from that boxer it isnt even funny..

Kimbo would beat him.. in MMA especially.. just for the simple fact that Tyson is out of shape, has no heart, and cannot compete anymore.. hes so far gone from what he use to be.. and will never even come close to that ever again.. hes 41 years old, just got out of legal trouble.. how can you expect this guy to compete with someone who is a professional athlete, a helluva lot younger, tons more MMA trained.. in much much better shape? I mean.. Tyson is the one coming off the streets at this point, cuz he is no longer an athlete.. hes a normal person.. in an out of shaped body.. who couldnt be more of a shell of his former self.. you cannot just take a guy who hasnt competed, is completely done and say "Ohh well he use to be great so he'd beat this guy!" he isnt that person anymore.. end of story.

[CHUCKtheCHAMP]

Originally Posted by Afro

Mike Tyson Pre-Rooney was far and wide above Ray Mercer sure.. but after that, there is no comparison.. Tyson became a bum in boxing.. losing to Danny Williams by KO.. losing to Kevin McBride by TKO.. two fighters Ray Mercer would of floored..

Ray Mercer gave Evander fits, gave Lennox Lewis fits.. he wasnt a chump by any means..

you cant take the part of Tyson' career that was legendary, and was what made him one of the greats of all-time and apply it to today.. he is so far from that boxer it isnt even funny..

Kimbo would beat him.. in MMA especially.. just for the simple fact that Tyson is out of shape, has no heart, and cannot compete anymore.. hes so far gone from what he use to be.. and will never even come close to that ever again.. hes 41 years old, just got out of legal trouble.. how can you expect this guy to compete with someone who is a professional athlete, a helluva lot younger, tons more MMA trained.. in much much better shape? I mean.. Tyson is the one coming off the streets at this point, cuz he is no longer an athlete.. hes a normal person.. in an out of shaped body.. who couldnt be more of a shell of his former self.. you cannot just take a guy who hasnt competed, is completely done and say "Ohh well he use to be great so he'd beat this guy!" he isnt that person anymore.. end of story.

Ohh so then mike cant train and get in shape??? he'd have to fight kimbo 2maro is wat ur saying?? cuz y couldnt tyson be in shape...

and didnt you say tyson would ko cro cop when that thread was around?...how could you say cro cop would loose to tyson(and mind you this was before the kongo fight) but now tyson is unable to beat kimbo...and fighter with less then half the stand up skill then cc and with half the ground game???thats just ridiclous...

[Renny]

Originally Posted by Afro

Did u actually read my post? im talking now.. he has no chin now.. and the bombs he took from Lewis? dude.. Lewis layed him the fuck out.. the shots he took from Douglas? Douglas KO'd him! what are you talking about.. im not even gonna further argue about a fighter whos lost 5 times by KO/TKO..a great chin is James Toney, and Hagler.. not Mike Tyson.

You have no argument to begin with...Just because a person gets knocked out means he has no chin???....If your only perception of someone having a good chin is never getting knocked out in a bout then you obviously have no clue of what your talking about when speaking of someone "having a good chin"..... has Tyson ever been knocked out with one flush shot ala Mcall and Rahman vs Lewis???...the knock downs given to him were from many hard shots he took throughout the bout....if thats not having a chin then i don't know what is....The fight with Williams he messed his knee up in the first round, and still took a beating with an injury, The Mcbride fight he took a few good shots, he didnt go down, he quit.......so putting your ideaology of having a good chin into play is, wandy and cabbage has no cchin cause they've been KTFO before right???....

[Afro]

Originally Posted by CHUCKtheCHAMP

Ohh so then mike cant train and get in shape??? he'd have to fight kimbo 2maro is wat ur saying?? cuz y couldnt tyson be in shape...

and didnt you say tyson would ko cro cop when that thread was around?...how could you say cro cop would loose to tyson(and mind you this was before the kongo fight) but now tyson is unable to beat kimbo...and fighter with less then half the stand up skill then cc and with half the ground game???thats just ridiclous...

A prime Tyson mwould prolly KO cro-cop but not todays Tyson.. and no theres nothing that suggests that Tyson COULD get into shape to fight in MMA.. did you see Tyson vs Cory Sanders? and that would of been the last hope that Tyson would of had to actually prepare himself for any type of MMA match.. and even then Kimbo probably would of outworked him.

And ill repeat this.. I said a prime Tyson would KO CC.. and you know that, Tyson is far from his prime

and let me ask u this.. Ray Mercer stayed active.. stayed fighting.. stayed in shape.. he did K-1 and Boxing.. in 2008.. and yet Kimbo still floored him.. what makes Tyson so much different? and please dont say that its because Tyson is a legend, and Ray Mercer is just a good boxer.. Tyson was a legend in the 80s.. the fuckin 80s.. its 2008.

and why cant Tyson be in shape? im not saying he couldnt.. im giving my opinion, quit taking things so personally..

IMO he cant get into shape because hes 41 years old, just got out of jail, and is mentally insane.. theres my reasons.. so Chuck lets try and have a civilized discussion for once.. and why dont you give me your reasons for why Tyson would come into shape.. please, do counter why someone who just got out of jail, is 41 years of age, and has mental issues and hasnt fought in years would be able to just train his ass off for a sport hes never competed in.. Oh! and tell me one more thing.. who on gods green earth is gonna take Mike Tyson into there camp to train him??

I forgot to mention that Mike Tyson would have his fuckin hands full even getting sanctioned for a fight!

Originally Posted by Renny

You have no argument to begin with...Just because a person gets knocked out means he has no chin???

fuck the rest of your post.. you wanna explain wtf this means? lol WHAT ELSE IS A TESTIMENT TO ONES CHIN? LOL... no buddy, getting knocked out has nothing to do with a fighters chin.. bad chins come from eating too many carbs

[The Sundance Kid]

Afro by TKO round 2.

[CHUCKtheCHAMP]

Originally Posted by Afro;454960[B

A prime Tyson mwould prolly KO cro-cop but not todays Tyson.. and no theres nothing that suggests that Tyson COULD get into shape to fight in MMA..[/b] did you see Tyson vs Cory Sanders? and that would of been the last hope that Tyson would of had to actually prepare himself for any type of MMA match.. and even then Kimbo probably would of outworked him.


And ill repeat this.. I said a prime Tyson would KO CC.. and you know that, Tyson is far from his prime

and let me ask u this.. Ray Mercer stayed active.. stayed fighting.. stayed in shape.. he did K-1 and Boxing.. in 2008.. and yet Kimbo still floored him.. what makes Tyson so much different? and please dont say that its because Tyson is a legend, and Ray Mercer is just a good boxer.. Tyson was a legend in the 80s.. the fuckin 80s.. its 2008.

and why cant Tyson be in shape? im not saying he couldnt.. im giving my opinion, quit taking things so personally..

IMO he cant get into shape because hes 41 years old, just got out of jail, and is mentally insane.. theres my reasons.. so Chuck lets try and have a civilized discussion for once.. and why dont you give me your reasons for why Tyson would come into shape.. please, do counter why someone who just got out of jail, is 41 years of age, and has mental issues and hasnt fought in years would be able to just train his ass off for a sport hes never competed in.. Oh! and tell me one more thing.. who on gods green earth is gonna take Mike Tyson into there camp to train him??



I forgot to mention that Mike Tyson would have his fuckin hands full even getting sanctioned for a fight!

fuck the rest of your post.. you wanna explain wtf this means? lol WHAT ELSE IS A TESTIMENT TO ONES CHIN? LOL... no buddy, getting knocked out has nothing to do with a fighters chin.. bad chins come from eating too many carbs

lets not get into cc vs tyson...prime or now tyson would get owned...and the thread was a tyson and cc now type thing but watever...


when did i say tyson would be in shape..i was jsut simply asking y u automaticly assumed tyson couldnt be in shape..i dont think he could either so yeah...and imo wat makes tyson diff from mercer is mercer is not as good as tyson on a bad day...mercer gave a few decent showings while tyson is tyson...its not just cuz tyson is tyson but it almost is..mercer is not half the boxer mike was inhis day so thats wat makes them diff... ohh and obviously there fighting style is different...tyson would compltely outbox kimbo even after being out of shape and in jail..the second kimbo felt tysons power it would be all over...

[Afro]

Originally Posted by CHUCKtheCHAMP

lets not get into cc vs tyson...prime or now tyson would get owned...and the thread was a tyson and cc now type thing but watever...


when did i say tyson would be in shape..i was jsut simply asking y u automaticly assumed tyson couldnt be in shape..i dont think he could either so yeah...and imo wat makes tyson diff from mercer is mercer is not as good as tyson on a bad day...mercer gave a few decent showings while tyson is tyson...its not just cuz tyson is tyson but it almost is..mercer is not half the boxer mike was inhis day so thats wat makes them diff... ohh and obviously there fighting style is different...tyson would compltely outbox kimbo even after being out of shape and in jail..the second kimbo felt tysons power it would be all over...

What are you saying?

I said a Prime Tyson could KO CC.. so what does the fact that the thread wasnt about a prime Tyson have to do with anything? it wasnt my thread.. you touched on my post, and thats what I Said.. if you feel the need to bring up my past posts atleast get them right.

And what kind of reasoning is this? Tyson is tyson?

Ray Mercer didnt just have a few decent showings, he gave Evander and Lennox Lewis hell.. both of which are boxers who are better then Mike Tyson.

And again, my point stands.. Mike Tyson's prime was in the 80s how can you compare that to now..

you need to realllly explain to me why an insane, out of shape, out of jail Mike Tyson can beat Kimbo.. and why an out of shape, insane Mike Tyson is actually better then an in shape Ray Mercer.. thats just retarded if you ask me.. fucking retarded. I dont like to throw insults but your really getting close to being a fuckin troll and deserving of insults.. please stop letting your blind hate for Kimbo get in the way of your posting.. read what the fuck your saying and realise how stupid it actually is.

and for the record, I jsut told you why I dont think Tyson would be in shape.. and im gonna say it again cuz I cant believe how incredibly stupid this shit is..

IN NO WAY SHAPE OR FORM IS IT OBJECTIVE TO THINK THAT A FAT, DRUG ABUSING, OUT OF JAIL MIKE TYSON AT THE AGE OF 41 IS IN ANY WAY SHAPE OF FORM FIT TO COMPETE WITH ANY MMA FIGHTER ESPECIALLY ONE WHO HAS HIGHLY EXTENSIVE TRAINING, IS A HELLUVA LOT YOUNGER, AND IN WAY BETTER SHAPE.. MIKE TYSON IS NO LONGER AN ATHLETE, HE IS MENTALLY INSANE, HE CANNOT IN ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM COMPETE LIKE HE USE TO.. HE IS NOT THE BOXER HE ONCE WAS.. JUST BECAUSE HIS NAME IS MIKE TYSON DOES NOT MEAN HE STILL BOXES LIKE MIKE TYSON.. THE MAN WONT EVEN BE ABLE TO PASS A PHYSICAL RIGHT NOW MUCH LESS BEAT ANYONE IN AN MMA FIGHT OF WHICH HES NEVER COMPETED IN BEFORE.. QUIT YOUR BULLSHIT HATE FOR KIMBO AND ACCEPT THE FACT THAT YOU ARE MAKING YOURSELF LOOK STUPID BY EVEN TRYING TO COME UP WITH ANY KIND OF REASON FOR WHY MIKE TYSON CAN EVEN FIND A WAY TO GET INTO AN MMA FIGHT RIGHT NOW.