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I understand what you are referring to when you say Dutch kickboxing, but I'm not really sure what you mean by Brazillian Muay Thai, and in what context are we judging their effectiveness?, kickboxing, Muay Thai, mma?

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i made a similar thread long time ago. Dutch Kickboxing vs Muay Thai.

i wanted to know the difference between the two and i got some great answers.
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The chopping down of dutch kickboxing is extremely effective and would take a lot of speed from the Brazilians. But in the clinch, the Dutch are doomed.
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Clinch = Dutch are in a lot of trouble.
Outside = Dutch can use chopping kicks to take a lot out of the MTer's.
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Dutch Kickboxers indeed, esp if we talking about Guys like...

Semmy Schilt
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If we're talking about Kickboxing vs Muay Thai it's hard to say which is better because you have to consider the rules under which they are fighting, take K-1 for example, a full rules Muay Thai fighter is limited cause he can't elbow, clinch etc whereas the Dutch style kickboxer isn't because the techniques he trained are the ones allowed.

However, I think you'll see that a full rules Muay Thai striker can adapt to a k-1 ruleset easier than a dutch style kickboxer can to being thrown into a FR MT fight with big elbows being thrown at him and the killer of most styles which aren't familiar with it, the clinch.

The question was which style is more effective, so I guess it comes down to the context, if we mean Muay Thai, mma, street fight etc, MT is probably the most effective fight, simply because they have experience using techniques which they will now be allowed to use. Thats not saying a kickboxer won't be able to clinch, elbow etc himself, but I think you'll find the majority of the time the MT fighter will have the advantage in those areas.

In a K-1 style kickboxing match it's a toss up, neither is really better because Muay Thai strikers just hold back from using elbows and clinching which isn't too big a deal, although if you are into kickboxing/Muay Thai you've probably heard the old classic " if it were a MT fight (insert name) wouldn't have a chance against (insert name)"

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Dutch Kickboxers indeed, esp if we talking about Guys like...
I don't think thats an accurate statement because it's just naming Dutch kickboxers who are successful, not straight up Dutch style kickboxers. And if we were to look at their styles I think we'll see a considerable amount of cross training.

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Semmy Schilt = Seidokaikan
Bass Rutten = Muay Thai
Gilbert Yvel = Muay Thai
Allistar Overeem =Muay Thai
Ernesto Hoost = Muay Thai
Remy Bonjasky = Muay Thai
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i believe muay thai is more effective...the clinch is deadly...and the brawling muay thai style is effective to get inside and use the clinch...
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i believe muay thai is more effective...the clinch is deadly...and the brawling muay thai style is effective to get inside and use the clinch...
its true for the most part, but all in all, it depends on the practicioner.
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its true for the most part, but all in all, it depends on the practicioner.
yeah it does...im biased towardes muay thai...ive done it for 6 years..so its wat i like to use
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