Fedor vs. Anyone - Page 3

Dr. MMA · #21 (**permalink**) 01-04-2008, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Palma

I think if certain NFL players started training way back when in Kick Boxing, wrestling, and BJJ then I could see one of them beating Fedor. Someone like Sean Meriman or Kerse...

But out of the current top 10 HW's in MMA they would be lucky to win.

I still haven't seen one legitmate argument for a win over Fedor from a current MMA fighter besides Randy controlling Fedor up against the cage for 5 rounds, but the chances of that happening without getting KO'd or subbed in the process are very slim.

yea isnt it funny how ppl always mention why fedor should not be #1 but always avoid the argument of who should be instead of fedor.

Randy is currently overrated, if he beat nog convincingly.. then maybe i would give him a better shot against fedor

markzabin · #22 (**permalink**) 01-04-2008, 07:11 PM

No one Can.

Top 10's are another story. Barnett, Couture, or maybe Gabe/Werdum would definitely have a shot.

I might get banned for this, but maybe Timmah!!! (of coarse by jabby decision)

But as Liddell proved with his fight with Rampage, anyone can be caught so it's just a matter of time IMO

Quintessential Studmuffin · #23 (**permalink**) 01-04-2008, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by markzabin

I might get banned for this, but maybe Timmah!!! (of coarse by jabby decision)

But as Liddell proved with his fight with Rampage, anyone can be caught so it's just a matter of time IMO

Agreed.

Palma · #24 (**permalink**) 01-04-2008, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by markzabin

No one Can.

Top 10's are another story. Barnett, Couture, or maybe Gabe/Werdum would definitely have a shot.

I might get banned for this, but maybe Timmah!!! (of coarse by jabby decision)

But as Liddell proved with his fight with Rampage, anyone can be caught so it's just a matter of time IMO

I think Sylvia has as good of a chance as anyone. He is an akward fighter to fight and he is certainly experienced.

Sylvia is the best or 2nd best HW in the UFC right now, so if he can't then I don't see why it matters if Fedor fights in the UFC or not anyways.

Afro · #25 (**permalink**) 01-04-2008, 07:37 PM

the thing is ya maybe Fedor shouldnt be #1 cuz of the whole competition thing.. still wont stop him from beating everyone put in front of him, I dont see a HW right now that can beat Fedor unless his name is Josh Barnett.. ya Randy Couture? would get an armbar slapped on him.. Josh Barnett can beat Fedor, hes well-rounded enough.. has the skills.. probably would still lose!

you gotta be pretty damn well-rounded to beat Fedor, hes beaten the best wrestlers, best strikers, best grapplers, best HWs.. hes beaten them all.. your gonna have to be great at almost everything to beat him

Harlem · #26 (**permalink**) 01-04-2008, 07:58 PM

The only person I see beating him is Randy, Arlovski, or maybe Gabe, with a hell of a game plan. Barnett has the skills but lacks the killer instinct and heart IMO. Silvia is just to akward adn tentative to beat him, I think Fedor just mauls him simular to Randy.

Fedor has trouble with fighters that have a size advantage so I think whoever beats him has to be big. Randy could do it just because of pure skills, and Gabe could possibly do it because he does press the action and I'm not convinced Fedor has the wrestling skills of Randy. AA would have to land a lucky punch IMO but is big enough to not get manhandled.

lovebuzzkurt · #27 (**permalink**) 01-04-2008, 09:38 PM

tom by arm bomb

Dork8503 · #28 (**permalink**) 01-04-2008, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Palma

I think if certain NFL players started training way back when in Kick Boxing, wrestling, and BJJ then I could see one of them beating Fedor. Someone like Sean Meriman or Kerse...

But out of the current top 10 HW's in MMA they would be lucky to win.

I still haven't seen one legitmate argument for a win over Fedor from a current MMA fighter besides Randy controlling Fedor up against the cage for 5 rounds, but the chances of that happening without getting KO'd or subbed in the process are very slim.

I have given you plenty of legit reasons on why AA will beat Fedor.

AA has sick power, speed an amazing countering. Not to forget he is a world champion in Sambo. Yes Fedors Sambo his better but AA is no slouch in that area.

I see Fedor coming at AA backing him up, AA countering stunning Fedor, AA coming forward hitting Fedor with a 1 2, Now Fedor is really hurt and AA finishes it off with another 1-2.

Just because you don't like when i say AA will beat Fedor, does not mean the argument is legit.

Afro · #29 (**permalink**) 01-04-2008, 10:27 PM

The key difference between AA and Fedors sambo.. Fedor has taking his game to a whole 'nother level in MMA where-as AAs seems to be virtually the same

you cannot compare the twos submission games anymore, Fedor is clearly the better grappler as well as Sambo prac.. AA wins on the feet, but I dont see anything that says he'll keep it on the feet.

Palma · #30 (**permalink**) 01-04-2008, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Dork8503

I have given you plenty of legit reasons on why AA will beat Fedor.

AA has sick power, speed an amazing countering. Not to forget he is a world champion in Sambo. Yes Fedors Sambo his better but AA is no slouch in that area.

I see Fedor coming at AA backing him up, AA countering stunning Fedor, AA coming forward hitting Fedor with a 1 2, Now Fedor is really hurt and AA finishes it off with another 1-2.

Just because you don't like when i say AA will beat Fedor, does not mean the argument is legit.

How is this a legitmate argument?

You are comparing a one time "Youth" World Sambo Champ (yes the division for teenagers) to the current 4 time "Adult" World Sambo Champ.

AA does have sick power and great countering, but you forget to mention the most crucial part (because it ruins your "legitmate"argument) which is AA has a jaw made of glass. Did you not see AA get KTFO in one fight against Tim and then lose the decision in the rubber match? Even against Werdrum he was totally afraid to engauge with Fabricio for fear of getting KO'd.

Here is the other crucial flaw that ruins your argument. When have you ever seen Fedor finished or stunned?

Fedor fought Nog 3 times, CC, and Hunt and didn't KO'd so what fuck are you talking about? We saw Fedor take one of the most vicious slams ever in MMA from Randleman and came back and won it.

Your prediction is just that... a scenario prediction... it isn't even an argument let alone a legitmate argument.

Does AA have the power to KO Fedor? Who the hell even knows until Fedor is KO'd for the first time.

I don't like it when you say AA will beat Fedor because it is a completely retarded statement. I agree that AA can beat Fedor, but to say he will really makes you look like an ass.