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Old 11-07-2007, 02:24 AM
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can anyone tell me what the purpose of the gi is it just looks more difficult to monover in and heavy and thick and and and and i could go on forever

It's a different mode altogether. The gi offers a lot of opportunities that are not present in no-gi. Spider guard, sweeps, chokes, tons of things that you can do while wearing a gi that you couldn't do without it.


In my opinion, it also narrows the strength and athleticism gap. Someone who is much bigger and stronger than you would be harder to control in no-gi, in my opinion. Having the gi on negates a lot of strenth, and makes it a lot easier to control someone without using a lot of force.



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idk it kinda feels like id be trying to play basketball in a wheelchair. I think all mma should adapt to the new age bruce said it best himself.Iv rolled countless times without a gi and love it if i had to wear pants and a heavy cotton toga i dont think i could get down but thats just me.

But you are assuming that all Jiu-Jitsu is for MMA. There are plenty of people to compete in BJJ with the gi on. Tons of tournaments and similar things.


I haven't gotten into any fights since I started training BJJ, but I do know that people often claim that training with the gi is still beneficial as anyone you get into a fight with will have some clothing on. A t-shirt, pants, jacket, even shorts can all be manipulated in similar ways as a gi.


Just like a gi, you can even choke someone out with their own shirt/jacket. I have an entire instructional about t-shirt chokes. It's kind of old and corny, but some of it is legit.
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tournament on dec. 1 so hopefully I'll have some good video to show from that.

I passionatly prefer the gi. It's a completely different game. If you haven't done it, you should really try before making rash judgements about the sport.
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Congrats, that was fuckin awesome. Your cardio was the truth. What all did you do cardio wise prior to that tournament?
Well, as soon as my last match was over my instructor came up to me and said "You see why we spar for ten minute rounds!" I don't remember gassing until the last round. Do interval training, all kinds. But there is one other important thing too, I'll mention later. Interval training is like doing a bunch of pushups, situps, squats, burpees (the best) in 3 minutes, and then rest 1 minute, and repeat. There is no way you can fully recover in one minute, so the next round you do you have to force yourself to go 90-100% with only half your tank full. If you find the right combination of exercises, you'll see a big improvement in recovery time between rounds and bigger numbers in the interval rounds. You can do running too: Run 200/400 meters, rest x amount of time. There's lots of stuff on it online, but I recommend www.rosstraining.com and buy one of his books, best thing ever.

The other thing I mentioned was learn how to use your energy while fighting. Don't tense up 100% of the time or you'll burn out. When I'm on top, I don't waste energy by clamping the guy everywhere, I just put pressure where I need to so he can't escape. And I only used one sweep the whole tournament. I can do that sweep very easily and I recommend that if you don't want to waste energy, have a couple sweeps/attacks that you know really really well so you don't waste energy fighting the whole time. As soon as I was in half guard, I hit the sweep every time. Only the first guy gave me trouble.

A guy I just lost to told me that he had been doing tabata intervals and his conditioning went through the roof. See if it helps.

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Awsome job bro!!!...very cool.......

I have my first tourny coming up shortly!!! Dec 1st NAGA.... I too am 150-60lb Novice Nogi.....so this is good to kind of get an idea about the caliber of my competition....very cool!!
I went to another tournament after that, got the silver. It was a gi tournament and the guy I lost to was a 3 year white belt who got passed the first round of the adcc trials. He put a clinic on me. There were 5 fights again. I thought since I got gold that I'd be a little big shot, and I neglected my cardio. He killed me. I think our weight has the most amount of people in it. So prepare for lots of fights. I kind of wish it wasn't that hard, but it just makes the win more rewarding. If you're within your weight, make sure you eat good food before the fight!! I was dizzy and not feeling well because I thought I needed to lose a little bit more so I barely ate anything the day before. Eat a little sugar before every match to wake you up since you have to wait awhile in between matches.

Try not to be nervous. My first tournament, I was peeing every 10 minutes. It was ridiculous haha. I've been training for 9 months now, in case anyone is wondering. I learned the triangle escape that saved my last fight the day before the tournament haha. I was thinking, this is really good, I should drill this a lot.
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Well, as soon as my last match was over my instructor came up to me and said "You see why we spar for ten minute rounds!" I don't remember gassing until the last round. Do interval training, all kinds. But there is one other important thing too, I'll mention later. Interval training is like doing a bunch of pushups, situps, squats, burpees (the best) in 3 minutes, and then rest 1 minute, and repeat. There is no way you can fully recover in one minute, so the next round you do you have to force yourself to go 90-100% with only half your tank full. If you find the right combination of exercises, you'll see a big improvement in recovery time between rounds and bigger numbers in the interval rounds. You can do running too: Run 200/400 meters, rest x amount of time. There's lots of stuff on it online, but I recommend www.rosstraining.com and buy one of his books, best thing ever.

The other thing I mentioned was learn how to use your energy while fighting. Don't tense up 100% of the time or you'll burn out. When I'm on top, I don't waste energy by clamping the guy everywhere, I just put pressure where I need to so he can't escape. And I only used one sweep the whole tournament. I can do that sweep very easily and I recommend that if you don't want to waste energy, have a couple sweeps/attacks that you know really really well so you don't waste energy fighting the whole time. As soon as I was in half guard, I hit the sweep every time. Only the first guy gave me trouble.

A guy I just lost to told me that he had been doing tabata intervals and his conditioning went through the roof. See if it helps.



I went to another tournament after that, got the silver. It was a gi tournament and the guy I lost to was a 3 year white belt who got passed the first round of the adcc trials. He put a clinic on me. There were 5 fights again. I thought since I got gold that I'd be a little big shot, and I neglected my cardio. He killed me. I think our weight has the most amount of people in it. So prepare for lots of fights. I kind of wish it wasn't that hard, but it just makes the win more rewarding. If you're within your weight, make sure you eat good food before the fight!! I was dizzy and not feeling well because I thought I needed to lose a little bit more so I barely ate anything the day before. Eat a little sugar before every match to wake you up since you have to wait awhile in between matches.

Try not to be nervous. My first tournament, I was peeing every 10 minutes. It was ridiculous haha. I've been training for 9 months now, in case anyone is wondering. I learned the triangle escape that saved my last fight the day before the tournament haha. I was thinking, this is really good, I should drill this a lot.



What was the ref going on about before your 5th match? Sounded like he was lecturing someone about divisions.
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What was the ref going on about before your 5th match? Sounded like he was lecturing someone about divisions.
I heard him saying something about spine locks being illegal.


Unquiet, congrats on the Gold man, the guy in the championship come out and gassed himself. You stayed patient and used technique while he was exerting energy constantly. Very nice. You love North/South position don't ya, I prefer side control because I don't like not having any control over the hips in N/S. But you got the scramble down pat from N/S it looked like. Good sub escapes too, stayed patient and worked that triangle off. Didn't see much off your back because you weren't there much, but you swept everybody from half guard.

That's why I want this to be stickied so we can see the different styles & everybody's BJJ strategy.
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That's why I want this to be stickied so we can see the different styles & everybody's BJJ strategy.


Yeah, if people keep making contributions, we will definitely sticky it. I will pour through some of my videos and see if I can find some of my grappling ones.


I don't have any from competitions, but I took a few videos before I left my last school, mainly as token of memory. I will see if I can dig it up and post it.
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Yeah, if people keep making contributions, we will definitely sticky it. I will pour through some of my videos and see if I can find some of my grappling ones.


I don't have any from competitions, but I took a few videos before I left my last school, mainly as token of memory. I will see if I can dig it up and post it.
That's cool, I don't think it'll have a problem getting action... I hope not at least.

I don't think my instructor was too thrilled when I asked to bring a digital camera in there lol, but i'll take some home footage of me rolling with the guys I train with on the side.
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Where is the tourny??...Is it the NAGA one in Ohio? ...cause Ill be there if it is...
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They are having the World Open Nogi tourny out here on Dec. 15th.
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What was the ref going on about before your 5th match? Sounded like he was lecturing someone about divisions.

There was a misunderstanding in the previous match. The guy on the left (third place) was putting on a straight ankle lock on the guy on the right (second place) and the ref stopped them and reset them standing. Straight ankle locks ARE allowed, but the ref thought he was doing a heel hook or something illegal. So this guy was another ref, since some people got mad at the bad call from the other guy, and the new ref was just clearing up what is allowed... for a long time lol.

I'm the guy in the middle :grinsmile26:

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Unquiet, congrats on the Gold man, the guy in the championship come out and gassed himself. You stayed patient and used technique while he was exerting energy constantly. Very nice. You love North/South position don't ya, I prefer side control because I don't like not having any control over the hips in N/S. But you got the scramble down pat from N/S it looked like. Good sub escapes too, stayed patient and worked that triangle off. Didn't see much off your back because you weren't there much, but you swept everybody from half guard.
Thanks man, it was the hardest thing I've ever done. What I was trying to do wasn't really north/south, but a combination of side control and n/s. You can see I always try and keep one hand on their hip so they can't turn into me effectively. Maybe wrap an arm too. And if they do, I probably wasn't keeping the right pressure in the right places.
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