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Old 05-18-2007, 01:04 PM
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I hope you guys are right, he is a welcome edition I just have a natural hate for Pro-Wrestlers lol. I know he was a NCAA 'real' wrestling champ, but I really think peoples skills go down when they enter 'Pro' wrestling..I just hate pro-wrestling so don't listen to me LOL.
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Old 05-18-2007, 01:28 PM
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A guy who already has fame and money, who has tried NFL football before and just left, I just think he won't last in MMA.

It is a lot of training and hard work for MMA and once he realizes how tough it really is, and how much he will have to learn, I think he will quit.

Another option and most likely, he will become a freakshow and not fight anyone of real caliber just fighting big guys and headlining japanese shows like Bob Sapp.


So your telling me you dont think he has good work Ethic. Common dude this guy was a NCAA champ in Wrestling. Wrestlingis one of the hardest sport to train for. As for football they invited him to try out. NFL does that alot, there's 2 Former NCAA Champs at the Jets mini camp this year. He gave it a shot and it didnt work out. I would say he quit. And He's nothing like Bob Sapp. He's a Former Wrestling Champ and He moves like a light Wt. With his Wrestling backround and Power i think he can be a beast. (But it will take Time)
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Old 05-18-2007, 01:34 PM
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In my opinion I would say that Brock has a great chance in the sport of MMA. Brock is an athletic wonder, he is extremely quick and explosive for his size. That coupled with his freakish strength and NCAA wrestling background makes Brock Lesner a real rookie prospect in MMA.

Brock also has the right make up to do well in MMA. Brock is a small town farm boy, with a work ethic that has been instilled since birth. He is very much like Matt Hughes in that respect.

As long as Brock doesn't get caught up in the hype, doesn't try and make his MMA career into a Pro Wrestling career, he will be a top MMA fighter in a few years.
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It's really too bad that people are blinded by the fact that Brock was a Pro Wrestler. I think it's sad, and you all need to get over that fact. Just try and pretend that you don't know that Brock was a Pro Wrestler.

Concentrate on what he has to offer the sport of MMA. Brock by far has enough skill and talent to give it a go. People love this Cory Hill off of TUF and he's got no real skills to bring to the cage. Then you rip Brock Lenser because he made money as a Pro Wrestler.

If you look at the facts about his potential and not the hype, then you will really be able to judge the situation without bias.
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Well he could be a champion if he hasn't let fame and money get to him. I guess what I am trying to say is that he will have to work real hard and learn alot to be one of the top guys and it is really hard to go from being a celebrity in WWE to middle of the pack in MMA.

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It's really too bad that people are blinded by the fact that Brock was a Pro Wrestler. I think it's sad, and you all need to get over that fact. Just try and pretend that you don't know that Brock was a Pro Wrestler.

Concentrate on what he has to offer the sport of MMA. Brock by far has enough skill and talent to give it a go. People love this Cory Hill off of TUF and he's got no real skills to bring to the cage. Then you rip Brock Lenser because he made money as a Pro Wrestler.

If you look at the facts about his potential and not the hype, then you will really be able to judge the situation without bias.
Exactly, I haven't been a fan of any that have fought pro wrestling but when people have skills, they have skills. Brock is a monster, and judging by the size of the Fujita-head, and his tree trunk neck he'll be able to absorb some blows (any that fall you guys mentioned OUCH). He's a top notch wrestler, with strength, athletic ability, and technique, all he has to do is work some defense (striking & grappling) and his wrestling will carry him until he learns more striking & BJJ.
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I knew that everyone would definitely respond to that comment as "well it's pro wrestling, and these guys know how to fall" or "it was a fake move anyway" and this video is for those people.

The right way:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r32kaZifKHA

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qrC9R5LTSQ

Brock got up to his feet just seconds later, lifted Angle above his head and improvised a new finish to the match. Regardless of how fake the sport is, lifting 220+ pounds onto your shoulders after falling 7-8 feet directly on your head is no easy task. Whether you like pro wrestling or not, that last video is/ could be, as bobcat said, a testament to the kind of punishment this man can endure, and if that's the case I feel very sorry for whoever he fights.
if he fights cro cop would you be sorry? if he fights fedor would you be sorry for him ??? Lesnar is strong no doubt but I fell from a trambolin to a metal pole a few years ago and landed on my chin and got up. Then i sparred in a boxing match and got ko'd by one punch. getting a direct shot to the face is different then falling. If Lesnar ever gets punched in the chin he may not fall quickly but still hes going to be dizzy and eventually he will fall.a cro cop kick or punch can end lesnars day very quick. but he could be like Randleman only slower then Randleman.
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Exactly, I haven't been a fan of any that have fought pro wrestling but when people have skills, they have skills. Brock is a monster, and judging by the size of the Fujita-head, and his tree trunk neck he'll be able to absorb some blows (any that fall you guys mentioned OUCH). He's a top notch wrestler, with strength, athletic ability, and technique, all he has to do is work some defense (striking & grappling) and his wrestling will carry him until he learns more striking & BJJ.
you are creating an imaginary character in mma.if fedor or Gonzaga cant outpower him then they will ko him.
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if he fights cro cop would you be sorry? if he fights fedor would you be sorry for him ??? Lesnar is strong no doubt but I fell from a trambolin to a metal pole a few years ago and landed on my chin and got up. Then i sparred in a boxing match and got ko'd by one punch. getting a direct shot to the face is different then falling. If Lesnar ever gets punched in the chin he may not fall quickly but still hes going to be dizzy and eventually he will fall.a cro cop kick or punch can end lesnars day very quick. but he could be like Randleman only slower then Randleman.
Lesnar isn't that much slower than Randleman imo, he ran a 4.6 40 yd dash (I know they don't sprint in MMA but an example of his athleticism), and he's stronger than Randleman. More technical than Randleman, and I would say he's open to learning new things (unlike Randleman).
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you are creating an imaginary character in mma.if fedor or Gonzaga cant outpower him then they will ko him.
That's a very good possibility, or they could just submit him. I never once said Brock would be elite, I said if he puts in the proper work on defense he could get by with his wrestling for a little while. I didn't say he'd jump right in and challenge for the belts.
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