Could MMA learn from boxing

[Beatts35]

I have been thinking latley that MMA (the UFC inparticular) is moving very very fast. and it may come back to bite them in the ass one day.

over the last 2-3 years we've seen alot of fighters rushed to title fights. a number of rematchs and trilogies within a short period of time. Do you think that MMA could slow down on some of the match making to save fights over the long term. Look at hughes getting another title shot so quick. which will set up a gsp vs hughes III less than a year after II. do you think that sometimes they give us to much without saving things for later. zuffa seems to have a number of rematches or will have a fighter leave after a loss. with the exception of hughes the rest of the top guys at 170 are under 30. they have 10 years or more ahead of them. i think zuffa is going to blow their wad on having guys fight each other over and over instead of giving them a few feeder fights inbetween the bigger fights. and letting a kos diego fued grow over a long period of time. look at how quick they gave us a bonnar vs griffin instead of letting that stew over a few years.

do you know what i mean? (in my best Ross Pointon voice)

[Ramma]

Originally Posted by Beatts35

I have been thinking latley that MMA (the UFC inparticular) is moving very very fast. and it may come back to bite them in the ass one day.

over the last 2-3 years we've seen alot of fighters rushed to title fights. a number of rematchs and trilogies within a short period of time. Do you think that MMA could slow down on some of the match making to save fights over the long term. Look at hughes getting another title shot so quick. which will set up a gsp vs hughes III less than a year after II. do you think that sometimes they give us to much without saving things for later. zuffa seems to have a number of rematches or will have a fighter leave after a loss. with the exception of hughes the rest of the top guys at 170 are under 30. they have 10 years or more ahead of them. i think zuffa is going to blow their wad on having guys fight each other over and over instead of giving them a few feeder fights inbetween the bigger fights. and letting a kos diego fued grow over a long period of time. look at how quick they gave us a bonnar vs griffin instead of letting that stew over a few years.

do you know what i mean? (in my best Ross Pointon voice)

I agree with you. And this has been a complaint of mine. Having UFC on Spike, HBO, ESPN, and PPV is flooding the market. I honestly think they should stick to monthly PPVs and a Bi Monthly UFC Fight Night..Put Inside the UFC on HBO and only recaps on ESPN or something.


However, if I hear about Hughes getting a rematch too soon one more god damn time.. I am going to find a way to find everyone who said it and do this in their face

[Metalhead]

In my opinion a fighter can only have a small window of time to be at his best, so when he's in that window he should get every opportunity to fight for the belts. To wait a year or two between rematches may actually make unfair advantages and so much can change in that amount of time. Also a figther only has so many fights. You can box more than you can MMA fight.

[Beatts35]

Originally Posted by Metalhead

In my opinion a fighter can only have a small window of time to be at his best, so when he's in that window he should get every opportunity to fight for the belts. To wait a year or two between rematches may actually make unfair advantages and so much can change in that amount of time. Also a figther only has so many fights. You can box more than you can MMA fight.

i would have to say that you have way more mma fights in you than boxing matches. boxers usually retire in their mid thirties. mma will take you into your 40's of course there are always exceptions to the rule. but you take alot less head trama during an mma fight.

[Ramma]

Originally Posted by Metalhead

Also a figther only has so many fights. You can box more than you can MMA fight.

I would like to hear the reason for this statement, if you don't mind (I am really curious, not trying to start an arguement).. I mean.. Couture is 40 years old.. Hughes have over 40 fights....

[ronin]

Originally Posted by Beatts35

I have been thinking latley that MMA (the UFC inparticular) is moving very very fast. and it may come back to bite them in the ass one day.

over the last 2-3 years we've seen alot of fighters rushed to title fights. a number of rematchs and trilogies within a short period of time. Do you think that MMA could slow down on some of the match making to save fights over the long term. Look at hughes getting another title shot so quick. which will set up a gsp vs hughes III less than a year after II. do you think that sometimes they give us to much without saving things for later. zuffa seems to have a number of rematches or will have a fighter leave after a loss. with the exception of hughes the rest of the top guys at 170 are under 30. they have 10 years or more ahead of them. i think zuffa is going to blow their wad on having guys fight each other over and over instead of giving them a few feeder fights inbetween the bigger fights. and letting a kos diego fued grow over a long period of time. look at how quick they gave us a bonnar vs griffin instead of letting that stew over a few years.

do you know what i mean? (in my best Ross Pointon voice)

They got enough fights for years, as an example what if Hughes beats Serra?
then GSP needs his rematch, then what if GSP beats Hughes again, now Serra gets his rematch and say wins GSP then we go around again.

[Beatts35]

Originally Posted by Ramma

I agree with you. And this has been a complaint of mine. Having UFC on Spike, HBO, ESPN, and PPV is flooding the market. I honestly think they should stick to monthly PPVs and a Bi Monthly UFC Fight Night..Put Inside the UFC on HBO and only recaps on ESPN or something.


However, if I hear about Hughes getting a rematch too soon one more god damn time.. I am going to find a way to find everyone who said it and do this in their face

hughes was just one example. i mean we have to potential to see hughes vs gsp III and hughes vs penn III less then a year after he fought them.

and its not a hughes thing, i think karo/diaz/kos/diego/burkman/fitch will all fight each other 2 or 3 times before they are 30, then what?

they rush the griffin vs bonnar fights, liddell couture II and III happend pretty close. it just seems like alot of mma match ups happen at a sprinters pace and its going to catchup.

[Beatts35]

Originally Posted by ronin

They got enough fights for years, as an example what if Hughes beats Serra?
then GSP needs his rematch, then what if GSP beats Hughes again, now Serra gets his rematch and say wins GSP then we go around again.

but instead of exhausting the hughes/gsp/serra lines
their are guys like karo who have been waiting to long for a title fight. diego is there and so is kos and fitch. they rush these other title lines without getting to others its just odd to me. its like dana is a gourmet chef in a mircowave instead of an oven.

[mcdev88]

they are not going to use all their big matches because there are so many young stars coming up. they have to get hughes in there he may not have long left then there is diego kos karo fitch burkman just there are so many contenders now that they cannot be holding off huge matches just to get a big rivialry going.

[Metalhead]

My reasoning is based on thinking that training for MMA will take more of a toll on your body. Throwing kicks, being locked in submissions, being slammed ect, seems like the daily grind is a bit tougher on the body to handle. More chance of joint and ligiment damage. I could be wrong.