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Old 05-05-2007, 03:16 AM
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Dont sell out Fedor. Stay at home in Pride. But then again that is becoming the name of the game. Your right, who could blame him. Not here
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Old 05-05-2007, 04:48 AM
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Fedor CAN be beaten. It HAS happened.

Clearly, if you go at him very early, it exploits a weakness.
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Old 05-05-2007, 07:47 AM
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Fedor CAN be beaten. It HAS happened.

Clearly, if you go at him very early, it exploits a weakness.
No one considers that a loss, reason being...

"Emelianenko's only loss in MMA came at the hands of Tsuyoshi Kohsaka at the King of Kings 2000 Block B event on December 22, 2000, via a TKO (doctor stoppage due to a cut) 17 seconds into the fight. The cut was caused by an elbowstrike, illegal under RINGS rules unless the striker was wearing elbow pads; however the tournament format required a winner and loser be acclaimed".

That's not a loss, he's still undefeated.

Not sure if you were being sarcastic (didn't read like it with the CAPS).
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Old 05-05-2007, 09:33 AM
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No one considers that a loss, reason being...

"Emelianenko's only loss in MMA came at the hands of Tsuyoshi Kohsaka at the King of Kings 2000 Block B event on December 22, 2000, via a TKO (doctor stoppage due to a cut) 17 seconds into the fight. The cut was caused by an elbowstrike, illegal under RINGS rules unless the striker was wearing elbow pads; however the tournament format required a winner and loser be acclaimed".

That's not a loss, he's still undefeated.

Not sure if you were being sarcastic (didn't read like it with the CAPS).
THere is still a loss on his record, so that means he is not undefeated. Maybe a * should be next to it explaining it as such.

And his shown weakness is his tendency to get cut. Which means he can be beat.
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Old 05-05-2007, 09:42 AM
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If those pay figures are accurate, then it sounds like Calvin is more interested in preventing Fedor from fighting anywhere else, than he is in running a successful (a/k/a profitable) MMA business.

I have a hard time believing it though. In my experience, the uber-rich have gotten and stayed that way by squeezing every quarter they ever had so hard the eagle screams.
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Old 05-05-2007, 09:43 AM
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THere is still a loss on his record, so that means he is not undefeated. Maybe a * should be next to it explaining it as such.

And his shown weakness is his tendency to get cut. Which means he can be beat.
Maybe? Did you not read what I just posted? There is no question there should an * next to it seeing as how it was an ILLEGAL ELBOW STRIKE...

I don't think him having soft and thin skin proves he can be beaten, I think him being human proves he can be beaten, however it has not happened yet and he has faced the best the sport has to offer and has escaped defeat many times.

I know it's early but in terms of dominating a sport I would rank him as follows:

1) Tiger Woods
2) Roger Federer
3) Fedor
4) Mayweather (lack of competition hurts his claim)
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Old 05-05-2007, 09:50 AM
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Im sick of all this "Fedor is unbeatable!" talk...he is a BAD man, i would never be stupid enough to say he isnt...but he IS A HUMAN BEING!! Anybody can be beaten...somebody will catch him one day...a lucky punch,a cut over the eye(legally), or just whip his ass...it will happen...
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Wow. I think Fedor is a great fighter, and currently the best. I think we need to stop turing him into a Jesus figure. He is what he is a fighter. There are a whole bunch of fighters out there. You do not get into UFC or Pride because you suck. YOu get there because you to can also fight. Any fighter on any given day can loose, these guys do what they do because they do it well . Just ask Mirko. Fedor will loose eventually. Just a matter of time. There are people out there that want to fight fedor (Timmy excluded,lol). Start signing these fights. I like Fedor, but no need to be so picky,,,,just sign
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the thing that sucks is that if fedor sells out for money instead of going where the competition is we may never find out how great he really is. i think taking that money and staying in bodog tarnishes fedor a bit. there are still plenty of great HW's out there that he hasnt fought. some exmaple include. Josh barnett, Randy Couture, Andrei Arlovski, fuck even Tim Sylvia would be a good fight if for nothing else watching tim get his ass kicked. thats just a few HW's that fedor hasnt thought. then what about possibilities like Chuck Liddell moving up in weight and fighting fedor. Bodog may have the $$ but they dont have the talent and i think Fedor should stay where the talent is. Dana white is gonna pay him good money. he'll prolly make at least a million a fight plus PPV and shit like that.
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the thing that sucks is that if fedor sells out for money instead of going where the competition is we may never find out how great he really is. i think taking that money and staying in bodog tarnishes fedor a bit. there are still plenty of great HW's out there that he hasnt fought. some exmaple include. Josh barnett, Randy Couture, Andrei Arlovski, fuck even Tim Sylvia would be a good fight if for nothing else watching tim get his ass kicked. thats just a few HW's that fedor hasnt thought. then what about possibilities like Chuck Liddell moving up in weight and fighting fedor. Bodog may have the $$ but they dont have the talent and i think Fedor should stay where the talent is. Dana white is gonna pay him good money. he'll prolly make at least a million a fight plus PPV and shit like that.
I hope you didn't purposely omit Gonzaga. Am I the only one here who'd like to see that match??
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