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Old 04-28-2007, 12:25 PM
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It was even imo - 1 round each and 1 pick-em round. I give Lindland more credit because of the weight disadvantage.
im not saying Rampage dominated, but I thought it was an easy fight to judge I felt Rampage won the takedown game, won on the feet, landed more punches overall especially on the ground, I dont think Lindland won it with those knees to the body and stomps to the feet in the clinch, or off of his sub attempts. Rampage was pretty much in control for 3 rounds, just my opinion. I give Lindland credit too, facing a bigger opponent but I think being a Greco-Roman wrestler, and Rampages weakness being the clinch its impressive the way he fought Lindland, considering that Lindland proved he can take anyone down at any weight.

By no means am I comparing Fedor to Rampage, but the debate was that Lindland at 205 wasnt powerful enough to use his wrestling but he went up against one of the most powerful HWs in Fedor, and took him down so that does say something about Rampages power, and his wrestling because it wasnt easy for Lindland to take Rampage down, and Rampage took Lindland down more times then Lindland took him down. Doesnt mean he'll take Chuck down, but I think Rampage is a better wrestler then his achievements suggest. Probaby has a lot to do with his style.
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Old 04-28-2007, 01:27 PM
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Lorue, I'd like to bring a different side to this thread.

Rampage signed a deal with an organization that he knows is going to try and market mainstream fights quickly using name recognition, past battles etc as a means to obtain a quick return on the investment. The same goes for Crocop.

Do you really think he came in not thinking that Chuck would be an opponent within 1-3 fights?

It's business...he signed the contract and has had more than enough time to prep, adjust etc knowing this fight was inevitable.
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afro: i have you on the record for a chuckie win, and a rampage win in the rubber match, have you changed your mind?
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Old 04-28-2007, 01:55 PM
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afro: i have you on the record for a chuckie win, and a rampage win in the rubber match, have you changed your mind?
No im sticking with that, I think its a safe prediction. I want Rampage to win again though no question but I think Rampage needs a loss to get back on track.
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No im sticking with that, I think its a safe prediction. I want Rampage to win again though no question but I think Rampage needs a loss to get back on track.
Back on track from his four fight win streak? He's won 4 in a row and 7 of 9...what is he getting back on track from?
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Old 04-28-2007, 02:03 PM
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Back on track from his four fight win streak? He's won 4 in a row and 7 of 9...what is he getting back on track from?
Did u see those fights? those were wins but not in the fashion they shoulda been

I disagree with the Eastman fight being a letdown, a 2nd round KO cannot be a letdown! but for a guy with one of the best defenses in MMA, he took too many shots (even though Eastman is a very versitile striker and short)

but he admits that he shoulda won vs Ninja, split vs Lindland (even though I felt it shoulda been a UD), decision vs that one asian fighter whom we never saw again, Rampage is a finisher and he hasnt been doing that much lately so ya he hasnt been on track.

and Rampage is a SERIOUS finisher, whether its by slam or with his punches he knocks opponents out, he doesnt go to many decisions I mean hes finished 19 opponents, and gone to 7 decisions.. 3 of them came after the Wandy fight followed by a disappointing loss to Shogun
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I think Rampage needs a loss to get back on track.
He's already had a few humbling losses anyway hasn't he? Lol.
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Rampage wanted the more time because he wanted more fights in the cage.. but Rampage does have cage experience... He has had like 3 months to train in the cage and train for Chuck, and if you look at his training, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aM92bOKJd8 , he is still training in the ring like Cro Cop did. So I don't see why he wanted more time to fight in the cage if, like Cro Cop foolishly did, he is training in the ring
If you pay any attention to the interview, any at all...he is training boxing virtually the whole time. He also says he is going up to big bear 4-5 weeks before the fight.

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He's already had a few humbling losses anyway hasn't he? Lol.
3 to be exact!
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Lorue, I'd like to bring a different side to this thread.

Rampage signed a deal with an organization that he knows is going to try and market mainstream fights quickly using name recognition, past battles etc as a means to obtain a quick return on the investment. The same goes for Crocop.

Do you really think he came in not thinking that Chuck would be an opponent within 1-3 fights?

It's business...he signed the contract and has had more than enough time to prep, adjust etc knowing this fight was inevitable.
Actually Rampage signed a contract with the WFA and then Zuffa bought them out, so he is basically at their mercy until a negotiated contract extension kicks in (I'm pretty sure Rampage is getting a new deal after this fight).

I think people should let go of the "warm up fight" thing, Rampage probably only said that because he looked so skittish in there with Eastman. As long as he doesn't let his nerves get to him, he has all the tools needed to put a hurting on Liddell.
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Lorue, I'd like to bring a different side to this thread.

Rampage signed a deal with an organization that he knows is going to try and market mainstream fights quickly using name recognition, past battles etc as a means to obtain a quick return on the investment. The same goes for Crocop.

Do you really think he came in not thinking that Chuck would be an opponent within 1-3 fights?

It's business...he signed the contract and has had more than enough time to prep, adjust etc knowing this fight was inevitable.
o yeah no doubt, i agree with you, but you know you can know something is going to happen and you can prepare for it but when the situation comes you freeze and its totally different, i think thats what happened with rampage, he knew how big it was but he didn't realize it, thats why he wants more warmup imo you know
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