Why Randy Will Beat Crocop

[Rockx]

Originally Posted by Afro Samurai

Cro-cop has much better takedown defense then Tim Sylvia, and I dont have to say this but I will better striking, if Randy couldnt beat Chuck Liddell in 2 fights why will he beat CC?

Because CC is not comfortable in the Cage yet. I don't think CC can stop Randy's takedowns for 5 rounds.

But you might think Randy can't avoid CC's strikes for 1 round..lol.

I think he can, but at any point in time CC can end a fight. I just think Randy could beat him.

[Afro]

Originally Posted by Rockx

Because CC is not comfortable in the Cage yet. I don't think CC can stop Randy's takedowns for 5 rounds.

I doubt it lasts 5 rounds

[breuter]

Originally Posted by newboy

Dude I am the Master of Knowledge in MMA as W. Shakespeare was at writing.

You are a moron...a better comparison would probably be you are the master of knowledge in mma as Jenna Jamison is to Broadway acting......

[baj54]

jenna jamison is freaking hot,how lucky is Tito!I would of losted to chuck liddel too knowing I get to go back and hump jenna later on!

[Rockx]

Originally Posted by Afro Samurai

I doubt it lasts 5 rounds

I am not trying to convince you he will win . All I am saying is that when this fight comes around I will bet the full lot (sig and avy) on Randy. Because I think he can beat him.

[Dork8503]

as much as i like randy i dont see it happening, mirko has good take down d and fedor couldnt finish him on the ground what makes you think randy can, mirko is alot better striker then chuck, hits harder with kicks and punches, and is light years ahead of tim, mirko moves great and is very fast, and mirko said he bought or is buying a cage to train in from now on so i think he will be ready with the cage,
oh yeah newboy your a moron

[chungt79]

Originally Posted by Bobcat1

Crocop has power, and you can never discount that, but people have been basing his dominance in the UFC upon his performance in Pride, and the comparison might not stick for a number of reasons.

First, Mirko has to adjust to a large cage where it's a little more difficult to corner an opponent than it would be in a square circle. Second, elbows could play a big part in a ground-n-pound scenario with Couture, and Mirko, technically, may have some catching up to do there. Finally, while Mirclo has faced good wrestlers in Coleman, Randleman, and Barnett, I think most people will admit they are not as multi-dimensional as Couture, (Couture, for example, would never be caught in a guillotine as easily as Randleman was) while Randy has faced top strikers like Belfort, Maurice Smith, Pedro Rizzo, and, of course, Chuck Liddell.

I think it will be close.

Cage doesnt have corners so it actually favors Mirko. Mirko needs range to make his strikes effective and if anything, Randy will be trying to corner Mirko for takedown. If Randy can take CroCop down, Randy will be fine but I doubt he will be able to. Randy needs to strike with him because Randy will not be willing to engage in stand up like he did with Sylvia. Sylvia is passive and lets Rnady take shots at him, you do that against CroCop, Randy is a dead man. You cannot possibly compare CroCop's level of stirking with Rizzo, Belfort, and Chuck. Also, Barnnett is not multi dimensional? Barnnett is one of the most skilled fighter in all MMA today and he has more skills than Randy imo.

[juice da god]

Originally Posted by newboy

1. Randy is in unbelievable shape
2. Randy has the most heart in MMA as proved this Sat.
3. Randy will take the fight to the ground
4. Randy has one of the best ground and pound games in all MMA
5. Randy is constantly improving on his striking skills
6. Randy is Captain America
7. Crocop has a glass chin

i love randy and i want him to win, and he will... IF he can handle the low kicks

[Clint]

Originally Posted by chungt79

Cage doesnt have corners so it actually favors Mirko. Mirko needs range to make his strikes effective and if anything, Randy will be trying to corner Mirko for takedown. If Randy can take CroCop down, Randy will be fine but I doubt he will be able to. Randy needs to strike with him because Randy will not be willing to engage in stand up like he did with Sylvia. Sylvia is passive and lets Rnady take shots at him, you do that against CroCop, Randy is a dead man. You cannot possibly compare CroCop's level of stirking with Rizzo, Belfort, and Chuck. Also, Barnnett is not multi dimensional? Barnnett is one of the most skilled fighter in all MMA today and he has more skills than Randy imo.

See I think the cage favors Randy since it's easier to take a guy down against the cage. That being said Randy is going to have to strike some with Crocop and he will have to use a different striking strategy against him than he used against Tim. Eventually in the fight he's gonna get caught with something while closing the distance for a takedown.

[Squeako]

Okay, I've been happy to lurk, but I have to reply to this nonsense.

First of all, I was absolutely thrilled that Randy beat Tim's ass. I laughed aloud at the description of his performance as "total ownage". It was great and Couture deserves a huge amount of respect, credit and praise.

But, if one were to look at Randy's opening volley that took Tim down, I was reminded of an instance in Cro Cop's second fight with Wanderlei. Silva charged in with hooks, Cro Cop stepped to the left and shot a straight to Silva's face (someone has the .gifs to show side-by-side). Does anyone believe that if Randy tried this (which left his face wide open), that Mirko would simply stand there as did Tim? Come on. He wouldn't be able to do that with Cro Cop and stay conscious. His game plan could not be the same, that's for sure. He'd have to trade with Mirko to even attempt a Grecco take-down, and he wouldn't be able to kick Mirko like that to set up the right.

Randy is simply great (I like him more than CC), and deserving of the UFC HW title. But, to think that because he dominated Tim Sylvia he would fare as well against Mirko, is ridiculous, IMHO. I am glad he beat Sylvia and was confident he could pull off the win. His striking impressed me, but it was against Sylvia, not Cro Cop, a person with whom he cannot afford to trade blows. He can bob his head, but Cro Cop isn't going to be afraid of throwing a kick as was Sylvia.

To think that Randy would fare well against Fedor in the cage is even more proposterous. The cage favors ground fighters more than strikers so it would be worse than a fight with Cro Cop. Considering Fedor's strength, speed and devastating GnP, the prospect of getting stuffed against the cage by Fedor should be every fighter's worst nightmare.

Just MHO. Okay, back to lurking.