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02-16-2007, 02:56 PM
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Good post Afro, Rampage was in his UFC debut against a good stand up fighter in Eastman. Jackson even said after he was nervous and in the end he KO'd Eastman standing up. As his nerves settle we'll start to see a much more dominant Rampage in the UFC.
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man I wish u didnt get banned, you should see the posts im dealing with on RFnet its so ridiculous over there
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02-16-2007, 02:59 PM
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While I'm not sure how much respect Rampage gets from these forums but it seems since Jackson left PRIDE people have just jumped on him for having some less then great fights and yet still winning. So I really do think that Rampage is aleast alittle unfairly labeled as "not being the same guy that beat liddell 3 years ago" but thats fair weather fans for you, one day hes the only guy who can beat Liddell and the next after some losses hes not the same.
for sigh, However I think Rampage even knows hes not on the level he should be fighting at, IF he happens to beat Chuck im sure he'll get all the respect he needs till he losses the belt though.
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02-16-2007, 03:02 PM
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Lutter and Belfort had previous fights in the UFC, they were use to the atmosphere and Eastman had been knocked out over and over again prior to the Lutter fight that wasnt the case for the Rampage fight, and ya a declining Belfort but its a different matchup! Belfort is a guy that likes to go in there and swing with a lot of power and speed, Rampage is a finese boxer.. he doesnt go in there and try to knock you out.. he tries to wear you down with his striking, and hes natrually a wrestler.. different match-up.. fact is Eastman is a better striker then Rampage and Eastman lost on the feet.
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That fight was lutter's debut in the ufc and i've only found one ko on eastman's record before vitor and lutter
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02-16-2007, 03:02 PM
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man I wish u didnt get banned, you should see the posts im dealing with on RFnet its so ridiculous over there
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I was just reading up on the Mixed Martial Arts forum on rf.net. Lol i can't beleive that guy was saying Vitor is much better than Rampage. Or Tito would beat Jackson. Or Beastman doesn't have that good MT and striking. Or Chuck's Striking better than Shogun's. If i didn't get banned i woulda been arguin with them.
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02-16-2007, 03:05 PM
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That fight was lutter's debut in the ufc and i've only found one ko on eastman's record before vitor and lutter
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he was getting Knocked out in TRAINING.
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02-16-2007, 03:06 PM
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Rampage is a great fighter, and I've never heard anyone really say anything bad about him....what do you want people to say? Everybody respects him. He just hasn't been fighting as good as he had been back in 03/04.
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02-16-2007, 03:06 PM
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No EAstman has wrestling over Horn by a longshot, and a little striking? EAstman has very good MT and Kickboxing he has MUCH better striking then Horn.
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Horn is a better fighter than Eastman, fought and beat better opposition and much more experience. Eastman's only notable win was Rampage and that was when Rampage was just starting out. Horn's JJ> Eastman's wrestling imo.
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02-16-2007, 03:07 PM
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he was getting Knocked out in TRAINING.
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Then what business did he have fighting?
There are no excuses for getting KO'd by Lutter though
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Horn is a better fighter than Eastman, fought and beat better opposition and much more experience. Eastman's only notable win was Rampage and that was when Rampage was just starting out. Horn's JJ> Eastman's wrestling imo.
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I dont care if Horn is a better fighter then Eastman, its the matchup that im talking about
Chuck is facing a guy with zero striking and wrestling skills and only has a BJJ game, and it took him 4 rounds to beat him on the feet
Rampage is facing a guy with damn good striking skills, that can wrestle too and it only took him 2 rounds
Rampage is a wrestler with good boxing
Chuck is a wrestler with good KO power IMO but people label him as a Top 10 striker which I disagree with but im saying Rampage isnt a Top 10 striker yet it took him 2 rounds to beat a damn good striker, Chuck is supposively this and it took him 4 rounds to beat a guy with NO striking skills to speak of.
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Then what business did he have fighting?
There are no excuses for getting KO'd by Lutter though
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If you get knocked out over and over again you go into the fight with a fragile chin thats why he was knocked out so fast, the more you get knocked out the weaker your chin is thats a fact.
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02-16-2007, 03:09 PM
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I was just reading up on the Mixed Martial Arts forum on rf.net. Lol i can't beleive that guy was saying Vitor is much better than Rampage. Or Tito would beat Jackson. Or Beastman doesn't have that good MT and striking. Or Chuck's Striking better than Shogun's. If i didn't get banned i woulda been arguin with them.
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whats this rf.net forums? From just reading that it doesnt even look like it's worth posting over there.
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