Mirko Has Fought Easier Guys in Pride

[Nate_Deezy]

I know this hasn't been discussed for like 2 pages, but the reports right now are that Cro Cop made $350,000 for this fight. And who knows if that includes ppv buys. That kind of bonus might be reserved specifically for main event title fights though.

[dagreat1]

Originally Posted by Nate_Deezy

I know this hasn't been discussed for like 2 pages, but the reports right now are that Cro Cop made $350,000 for this fight. And who knows if that includes ppv buys. That kind of bonus might be reserved specifically for main event title fights though.

It is also reported that Chuck, Tito and Randy make $2+ million per fight after their PPV percentages and Chuck and Randy have the highest base pay in the UFC which is $250,000 per fight.

So with Cro Cop at $350,000 base pay, if that is accurate he is now the highest paid fighter in the UFC (and likely MMA) and that is a very interesting question about the possibility of him not getting the PPV percentages unless it is a headline but for Cro Cop and likely Rampage, they still get a percentage, it is just likely smaller when they do not headline.

[ronin]

Just to get back to what this thread was about, no one said Cro Cop faced only top fighters all the time.

Of course guys like Dos Caras Jr should have never fought Cro Cop.

And yes he didn't have a great K-1 record, but look at Ernesto Hoost maybe one of the best K-1 fighters of all time never made the jump to MMA so Hoost will never be considered a great fighter.
Because Cro Cop made that jump he will be considered one of the best heavyweights of our generation along with fedor and nog.

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[dagreat1]

Originally Posted by ronin

Just to get back to what this thread was about, no one said Cro Cop faced only top fighters all the time.

Of course guys like Dos Caras Jr should have never fought Cro Cop.

And yes he didn't have a great K-1 record, but look at Ernesto Hoost maybe one of the best K-1 fighters of all time never made the jump to MMA so Hoost will never be considered a great fighter.
Because Cro Cop made that jump he will be considered one of the best heavyweights of our generation along with fedor and nog.

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Hoost is considered a great fighter and the best striker of all time. He was too old to make the transition to MMA but had he been able to make the transition in his prime, he would've been dominant, ther is no question about it IMO.

On these MMA boards though, you are certainly correct, and only the more knowledgable fans will acknowledge who Hoost is.

[ronin]

Originally Posted by dagreat1

Hoost is considered a great fighter and the best striker of all time. He was too old to make the transition to MMA but had he been able to make the transition in his prime, he would've been dominant, ther is no question about it IMO.

On these MMA boards though, you are certainly correct, and only the more knowledgable fans will acknowledge who Hoost is.

Well it would have been nice to see if Hoost was younger if he could of made that transition, but I still can't call him a great fighter cause I only consider MMA fighters as the top fighters, K-1 fighting would be second and third for boxing.

Lets take Mike Tyson he had devastating power now take that power with 4 ounce gloves, but could he have learned the other skills who's to say.

[2mcgrath]

i dont think there was anything wrong with having him fight eddie,i mean alot of ufc fans dont know who cro cop is.so they need exposure for him before he fights any of their bigger names.and i think his fight with eddie done just that

[baj54]

Lets look at this for what its worth!C.C. contract is for 6 fights!Can anybody even name 6 fighters in the ufc that would give c.c. a problem? No not really,plus ZUFFA has to get their money's worth for this guy.He is going to fight some cans for his first couple of fights.What do you guys really think the UFC is going to toss timmy to him as his first match in the UFC?No,he has to pay his dues(even though we all know he has already)in the UFC.How is the organization going to market a fighter who comes in as his first fight and lays waste to their champion?Not going to happen.Expect in the near future for UFC's TUF to feature the hw division so they can find some more fighters.

[valheruking]

the UFC are already preparing for the whole new guy comes in and destroys the hw champ situation by finally acknoledging the existence of PRIDE as a source of major talent and tough competition, if you think about it , it makes sense, if they just act like cro cops some random fighter without refering to his achievments then sylvia will be seen for the joke he is when he gets defeated, tim must be pissed that dana and joe were saying that cc was "in the top 2 or 3 if not the number 1 hw in the world" when he was saying he was the best in the world and nobody in the ufc were arguing until cc came in and now its like their not even giving sylvia a chance, just shows you cant take the ufc fighter hype seriously cause the guys in charge know where the top fighters are for real, and in the hw case its PRIDE(def was when cc was there too,still is though)

[DonFrye]

Why wouldn't a promotion want to put their highly paid wrecking ball in the ring to create a highlight reel style knockout to get the hype up going into the title hunt and the home stretch of his contract? Being true fans, we want to see the best fight the best. UFC has PROVEN that they don't necessarily cater to the true fight fans (See lister/Marquadt removal, TUF, etc.) they are interested in selling to the new fans and building a brand name. That's fine. There is still 1 or 2 fights on a card for the purists. But don't speculate about CC regretting his move. I bet he regretted it about 350,000 times on his way to the bank and then it all felt better. And by the way, Kevin Randleman is a HUGE draw in Japan and he is way too skilled to be called a "can". He holds some wins over great fighters (CC, Maurice Smith, Murilo Rua, Sobral, Pedro Rizzo).

[Bullock]

Originally Posted by baj54

Lets look at this for what its worth!C.C. contract is for 6 fights!Can anybody even name 6 fighters in the ufc that would give c.c. a problem? No not really,plus ZUFFA has to get their money's worth for this guy.

Agreed.