BOOING COTE??? (Spoiler)

[mauladala]

Yeah... "Pigeon" Cote definitely shouldn't have left it in the judges hands as you can never be certain it will end up in your favor. But I just didn't perceive him as running the whole time as he had Scott pressed against the cage 4 or 5 different times in the first two rounds. The third round, YES: it was run city. Very annoying. But I saw great wrestling and a little Muy Thai defense against the cage; esp. in the first with his body turns/underhooks on Smith pressing him against the cage, and catching his leg for a high scoring slam when he was pressed. Smith had nothing to offer, which I was surprised and disappointed by. It was not the best match, but it wasn't the worst either (i.e. Sylvia vs. Arlovski III).

[The Sundance Kid]

yea, I would consider maybe 10% of the people at the UFC event's "fans" the rest are just spectators and are there to see a Spectacal, they are dumb as shit and have no idea what was going on. It will never change so you mine as well get used to it.

[Zenshotokai]

Originally Posted by dagreat1

Well saying drop him is being harsh, however YES Cote literally ran from him the entire fight, he came in, threw some and would run away after he got his combos off, he kept on doing it, that is not getting off your strikes and moving back out like so many strikers do, no Cote took it to a different level and was running. When you come in and throw strikes and move out of the other fighters range to avoid a counter, it is wise, however you do not need to run backwards 10' from your opponent to be out of their range, just 4'-5', not 10.

It has nothing to do with Cote trying to gain me as a fan, it has to do with him taking up 20 minutes of PPV time and putting on a horrible showing of defensive striking and running. I thought the fight was horrible, Cote running the whole tie and Smith doing nothing about it. Ofcourse I don't expect a war every fight but that fight was openeing FOR A REASON, Dana and Joe Silva obviously had reason to beleive that it was goign to be fireworks and they know Smith will stand and throw and cote HAS done that in all of his other fights, or taken his opponent to the ground and worked from there, not come in, throw strikes and run away to avoid the exchange.

The fight did not deliver, plain and simple and it was due to Cote running away.

I would never boo him or any athlete but to run from a guy and then have him hurt and 1 punch away from being KO'ed or TKO'ed and "sticking to your gameplan" is ridiculous as the game plan SHOULD"VE entailed stunning, KO'ing or TKO'ing his opponent, not drawing out a decision.

The win was vital as he was 0-4 in the UFC however he had the fight won and out of the judges hands had he just finished Smith when he was on queer street, he coul've been robbed of the decision, so why take the chance?

Thanks! Your commentary just proved that you have no idea what you are talking about. Three rounds of running. Please! The last round, with the fight in hand, sure. You have no clue...buy a vowel.

[dagreat1]

Originally Posted by Zenshotokai

Thanks! Your commentary just proved that you have no idea what you are talking about. Three rounds of running. Please! The last round, with the fight in hand, sure. You have no clue...buy a vowel.

lol at you trying to justify the 3rd round running, like anyone ahead on the score cards going into the final round of a fight should just run around and avoid engaging.

Yes 3 rounds of running, like 2 minutes of each round was running.

That is why the fans were booing, NOT because he is Canadian, but because he would not engage in combat, he was avoiding it the entire fight, Smith was stalking him, Smith would throw, Cote would flee, then Cote would come in quickly wiht 2-4 crisp punches, some would land, then Cote would get out but not just beyonf Smith's range, no just beyond Tim Sylvia and Semmy Schilt's COMBINED range.

There is a HUGE difference when someone like Cro Cop avoids exchanges by getting his off first and then getting out of there because Cro Cop is only taking SECONDS in between strikes, Cote was taking MINUTES between strikes and that is why he got booed and that explains the running.

Understand how that works?

[Jones]

Why do alot of these young guys try to act funny by doing that karate kid crane sh*t in the ufc? Kinda demeans the sport IMO. When would you see guys like Nog, Fedor, CroCop, Shogun and them acting like jokers during a fight by spoofing Karate Kid? It's always those young UFC guys from the TUF shows or from some other crap promotion. Like they're trying to get a laugh from the crowd. Really silly.

[Jones]

Originally Posted by The Sundance Kid

yea, I would consider maybe 10% of the people at the UFC event's "fans" the rest are just spectators and are there to see a Spectacal, they are dumb as shit and have no idea what was going on. It will never change so you mine as well get used to it.

That Cote/Smith fight was a joke. Even Dana White himself said it sucked ass! Cote deserved to be booed. If people wanna watch him fight, they might as well just turn the channel over to MSG and see a couple of local bums in a 10 round snoozer fighting scared of eachother.
Cote ain't worth dvd space. I'm gonna edit his match off my harddrive when I burn it to DVD.
That Scott Smith cat should also go get himself another job. He sucks too and his Karate Kid impersonation was lame as hell.
You can clearly see now why Dana White is all uppity about going after international fighters. He wants to trash all the junk like Cote and Smith and get some good fighters into his org. No more of that tv show crap. Cote and Smith belong on TUF, not on a $40 ppv.

[Zenshotokai]

Originally Posted by dagreat1

lol at you trying to justify the 3rd round running, like anyone ahead on the score cards going into the final round of a fight should just run around and avoid engaging.

Yes 3 rounds of running, like 2 minutes of each round was running.

That is why the fans were booing, NOT because he is Canadian, but because he would not engage in combat, he was avoiding it the entire fight, Smith was stalking him, Smith would throw, Cote would flee, then Cote would come in quickly wiht 2-4 crisp punches, some would land, then Cote would get out but not just beyonf Smith's range, no just beyond Tim Sylvia and Semmy Schilt's COMBINED range.

There is a HUGE difference when someone like Cro Cop avoids exchanges by getting his off first and then getting out of there because Cro Cop is only taking SECONDS in between strikes, Cote was taking MINUTES between strikes and that is why he got booed and that explains the running.

Understand how that works?

Yea. So stand and fight Smith's game and get beat. REAL smart fight strategy!!!! It does not take an idiot to stand there and get beat at someone's elses game. If you fight a striker, clinch or take it to the ground. If you can't strike, come in and take your shots and then move out of range. How hard is that. Any boxer knows that. It is that basic

Understand how it works?

[dagreat1]

Originally Posted by Zenshotokai

Yea. So stand and fight Smith's game and get beat. REAL smart fight strategy!!!! It does not take an idiot to stand there and get beat at someone's elses game. If you fight a striker, clinch or take it to the ground. If you can't strike, come in and take your shots and then move out of range. How hard is that. Any boxer knows that. It is that basic

Understand how it works?

That's funny considering Cote is defined as a Boxing, Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, Wrestling and Kickboxing practitioner. 2 forms of striking, I am slamming him for the snooze fest he and Smith put on but at least I acknowledge the man's fighting background.

Again I guess it is over your head, move in, pick your shots, then MOVE out of range, don;t run out of range, 4-5 feet is out of range, not 10', he was not fighting Semmy Schilt, Wes Simms, Gan McGee or Tim Sylvia, he's fighting a 6' fighter with an average reach and when you come in, throw strikes, then move out, you're supposed to come back in, not wait 30 seconds and then come back in, there are plenty of openings, Smith has no footwork or angles whatsoever, he can only stand in front of you and punch, Cote played it FAR too safe, ran around, Smith bas boring, they both got booed, end of story and end of your ramblings, you did not even know Cote's background, how can you defend a fighter you know nothing about?