I have my doubts and gotta ask

Dan0 · #1 (**permalink**) 12-31-2006, 03:58 PM

I am a fan of Chuck Liddell, and have in the past bashed Tito. It was at this fight he earned my respect. I know I may take some heat for this, so flame if you desire, I can handle it.

I wasn’t there so I didn’t see it live. I did read the pbp on MMANews web site, and watched the fight on video. The ending of the fight has caused me concern. Chuck was beating down on Tito. From my view (video) it APPEARED that although Chuck did land some shots to Tito’s head, however, there were more inaccurate shots to the arms and to the defense of Tito.

Referee Yamasaki stopped the fight because in his eyes, and in his mind (I guess) Tito was not able to intelligently defend himself. At the moment Yamasaki was stopping the fight, at that instance he stood over the fighters. It looked as though he was telling Tito (in his own verbiage) to make an effort to intelligently defend himself, then, at the last moment, at the moment of the end, it looked as though Tito made one last kick/challenge to escape the onslaught of Chuck’s attack. The fight was stopped and Tito stayed on his knees for just a moment then ascended to his feet without effort.

The fight ended and Tito manned up. Tito showed respect to his opponent, he acknowledged his defeat, he told the world Chuck IS the best on the PLANET.

So, my question is (I acknowledge as mentioned above I wasn’t there, and that I may be planting a seed of doubt) was Tito’s last kick effort, this last ounce of effort, the final moment the fight ended – at this point was it a WWE pre-choreographed moment?????????

Watch the fight again, and then again.

If I’m full of $H!+ so be it.

Mac · #2 (**permalink**) 12-31-2006, 04:01 PM

You were actually making some good points, and then you had to say WWE. :banghead:

Dan0 · #3 (**permalink**) 12-31-2006, 04:02 PM

Tito's history of behavior is all WWE

strife · #4 (**permalink**) 12-31-2006, 04:03 PM

I'm not gonna get too far into this but I will say one thing...

You would figure someone as trained as Tito would know how to pull gaurd....

KENO5366 · #5 (**permalink**) 12-31-2006, 04:03 PM

I think it was a fair stop. Tito kind of rolled over and the ref stoped it. If Tito didn't roll over it would have gone on like the first round.

Dan0 · #6 (**permalink**) 12-31-2006, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by LILMAC

You were actually making some good points, and then you had to say WWE. :banghead:

Sorry for using the "W" word.

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Originally Posted by strife

I'm not gonna get too far into this but I will say one thing...

You would figure someone as trained as Tito would know how to pull gaurd....

I'm NOT saying it wasn't a FAIR stop, as far as fair stops go. I'm just suspect of the way it went down.

TreK · #7 (**permalink**) 12-31-2006, 04:07 PM

My buds and I watched the show on PPV last night. They showed the replay several times from different angles and after review, all in attendence agreed that the ref stopping the fight was the right call.

Yamasaki is typically the type of ref to stop the fight early so, after Tito took the shot that caused him to lose his footing, I thought the Ref was going to stop it but, let it go... I swear, Dana pulled Steve aside and said... don't stop this one too early dude!

Also, in the replay, Tito made his last effort to put some distance between himself and Liddell only after the ref stepped in. Prior to that... he was just turtling up and taking a beating...

Great fight though... I don't know how Eddie Bravo thought that Ortiz won the 2nd round.

Dan0 · #8 (**permalink**) 12-31-2006, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by strife

I'm not gonna get too far into this but I will say one thing...

You would figure someone as trained as Tito would know how to pull gaurd....

At the risk of sounding stupid, "Are feelin' me dog???"

Mac · #9 (**permalink**) 12-31-2006, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Dan0

I'm NOT saying it wasn't a FAIR stop, as far as fair stops go. I'm just suspect of the way it went down.

Sorry for using the "W" word.

It's fine I just hate when people start with the taking a dive theory in MMA. Keep that talk in the boxing section.

Dan0 · #10 (**permalink**) 12-31-2006, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by LILMAC

It's fine I just hate when people start with the taking a dive theory in MMA. Keep that talk in the boxing section.

It can't bother YOU MORE than it bothers ME.

Look at the PPV numbers though.

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