sanchez vs hughes

[rockernhb]

AS much as I dislike Deigo I will agree that one day he will probably become a champion. BUT, not for a while. I believe Hughes would break him down and destroy his spirit in a fight and I think it would frustrate Deigo so bad that he would give in and get dominated. Which might not be a bad idea for him and might even make him a more powerful fighter.

[devildude]

well. bj penn probably isn't as strong as hughes but he out jj'ed him. so diego just needs a solid game plan. and a miracle

[Masscore]

Wow this thread is making me laugh my ass off.

Diego outwrestling Hughes... are you kidding me?!?!?!? Diego was a state champion of New Mexico, a state that is not known for its wrestling. Matt Hughes is a 2x D1 College All-American. Diego had a hard time taking down Alessio and Riggs throw off his takedown attempt like it was nothing. You suddenly expect him to take down Hughes with ease? I somehow doubt that.

Diego outstriking Hughes... laughable to. Diego has not out striked anyone in his career. Even Riggs, who he caught off balanced. Sure Hughes is not a very good striker either, but Diego is nothing speical when it comes to striking.

Diego submitting Hughes.... LOL. Diego does not submit anyone, he wins by decision. He could not even submit a tired and hurt Karo when he had a rear naked choke at the end of third. And you expect him to submit Hughes, a guy that fought out of Trigg's deep choke and did not tap when Penn, a world class BJJ practioner, had him in a triangle arm-bar. Where as Hughes has submitted the likes of Riggs, GSP, Trigg, and probably a couple of other guys I cant think of right now.

Finally and the funniest of them all, Diego outpowering Hughes. Everyone that has fought and trained with Hughes has said the guy is the strongest human being they have ever rolled with. The guy is a freak of nature when it comes to strength. Diego is strong dont get me wrong, but Hughes is still far stronger then him. If Diego tried to outpower Hughes he would learn real fast it is a mistake.

So yea, all you guys thinking that Diego would dominate Hughes have to remember that even after his lost to GSP, Hughes is still Hughes. The guy that dominated his wieght class for about 4 years. He would bring Diego right back to earth with a slam and GnP him or submit him the first.

[Palma]

Originally Posted by Masscore

Wow this thread is making me laugh my ass off.

Diego outwrestling Hughes... are you kidding me?!?!?!? Diego was a state champion of New Mexico, a state that is not known for its wrestling. Matt Hughes is a 2x D1 College All-American. Diego had a hard time taking down Alessio and Riggs throw off his takedown attempt like it was nothing. You suddenly expect him to take down Hughes with ease? I somehow doubt that.

Diego outstriking Hughes... laughable to. Diego has not out striked anyone in his career. Even Riggs, who he caught off balanced. Sure Hughes is not a very good striker either, but Diego is nothing speical when it comes to striking.

Diego submitting Hughes.... LOL. Diego does not submit anyone, he wins by decision. He could not even submit a tired and hurt Karo when he had a rear naked choke at the end of third. And you expect him to submit Hughes, a guy that fought out of Trigg's deep choke and did not tap when Penn, a world class BJJ practioner, had him in a triangle arm-bar. Where as Hughes has submitted the likes of Riggs, GSP, Trigg, and probably a couple of other guys I cant think of right now.

Finally and the funniest of them all, Diego outpowering Hughes. Everyone that has fought and trained with Hughes has said the guy is the strongest human being they have ever rolled with. The guy is a freak of nature when it comes to strength. Diego is strong dont get me wrong, but Hughes is still far stronger then him. If Diego tried to outpower Hughes he would learn real fast it is a mistake.

So yea, all you guys thinking that Diego would dominate Hughes have to remember that even after his lost to GSP, Hughes is still Hughes. The guy that dominated his wieght class for about 4 years. He would bring Diego right back to earth with a slam and GnP him or submit him the first.

What do Hughes wrestling accomplishments from over a decade ago have to with his abilities now. He never placed above forth in his only 2 years in Div I ncaa, which is the equivilant of never getting past a Divisional championship in the NFL. It's above most, but not really a big deal. Diego has better technique and probably would have done just as well in NCAA if that is what he'd done instead of going straight into MMA from highschool.

[Masscore]

Originally Posted by Palma Wrestler

What do Hughes wrestling accomplishments from over a decade ago have to with his abilities now. He never placed above forth in his only 2 years in Div I ncaa, which is the equivilant of never getting past a Divisional championship in the NFL. It's above most, but not really a big deal. Diego has better technique and probably would have done just as well in NCAA if that is what he'd done instead of going straight into MMA from highschool.

You can not compare High School accomplishments to College accomplishtments. Here is an example:

My high school wrestling coach was a 3x state champion, High School All-American. He even beat the number 1 ranked high school wrestler in his wieght class before he entered his freshmmen year at Penn State. How many times did he place at the NCAA tourny... once his senior year. He took 7th. In the NCAAs everyone knows takedowns, takedown defense, and how to mat wrestle. Everyone is strong, eveyrone is fast, and everyone has great cardio. The same can not be said for high school wrestling.

More recently, I saw this kid who was a High School National Champion place 5th at Divison 3 NCAAs. Divison 3, not even D1.

So I hope this gives you some idea what I am talking about. Just because Sanchez can take people down in MMA and was a high school state champ, does not mean he would do as well as Hughes in D1. Acctually, I highly doubt he would come close. Like said, Diego could not even takedown Alessio or Riggs and you expect him to outwrestle Hughes....????

[Dork8503]

ive said it before, out of the 3 i think hughes is the only one deigo can beat, if the fight happens in the next 3 months i dont think he can beat hughes, afro you might be right about deigo being a better striker, but i disagree on the sub, i think matt is better when it comes to subs, and wrestling i think his wrestling is better, and matt isnt going to gas, if karo wouldnt have gassed deigo wouldnt have one, and matt isnt going to gas if this fight goes to dec id be surprised, matt is alot better on the ground and is alot stronger then deigo, i dont think matt would try to strike with anyone after getting his ass handed to him by penn, then gsp, so i think he will stick to what he is good at, wrestling and gnp, i dont see matt standing this fight i see him taking down deigo, that or slaming him down mounting him and pounding his way to victory

[Dsm634]

Originally Posted by Masscore

Wow this thread is making me laugh my ass off.

Diego outwrestling Hughes... are you kidding me?!?!?!? Diego was a state champion of New Mexico, a state that is not known for its wrestling. Matt Hughes is a 2x D1 College All-American. Diego had a hard time taking down Alessio and Riggs throw off his takedown attempt like it was nothing. You suddenly expect him to take down Hughes with ease? I somehow doubt that.

Diego outstriking Hughes... laughable to. Diego has not out striked anyone in his career. Even Riggs, who he caught off balanced. Sure Hughes is not a very good striker either, but Diego is nothing speical when it comes to striking.

Diego submitting Hughes.... LOL. Diego does not submit anyone, he wins by decision. He could not even submit a tired and hurt Karo when he had a rear naked choke at the end of third. And you expect him to submit Hughes, a guy that fought out of Trigg's deep choke and did not tap when Penn, a world class BJJ practioner, had him in a triangle arm-bar. Where as Hughes has submitted the likes of Riggs, GSP, Trigg, and probably a couple of other guys I cant think of right now.

Finally and the funniest of them all, Diego outpowering Hughes. Everyone that has fought and trained with Hughes has said the guy is the strongest human being they have ever rolled with. The guy is a freak of nature when it comes to strength. Diego is strong dont get me wrong, but Hughes is still far stronger then him. If Diego tried to outpower Hughes he would learn real fast it is a mistake.

So yea, all you guys thinking that Diego would dominate Hughes have to remember that even after his lost to GSP, Hughes is still Hughes. The guy that dominated his wieght class for about 4 years. He would bring Diego right back to earth with a slam and GnP him or submit him the first.

Wow, nice post. I agree with all your points. Hughes > Sanchez

Oh and I love how everyone thinks Matt sucks because he lost once in like four years.....

[TriangleChoke]

i think diego will cry when he gets his first loss

[Palma]

Originally Posted by Masscore

You can not compare High School accomplishments to College accomplishtments. Here is an example:

My high school wrestling coach was a 3x state champion, High School All-American. He even beat the number 1 ranked high school wrestler in his wieght class before he entered his freshmmen year at Penn State. How many times did he place at the NCAA tourny... once his senior year. He took 7th. In the NCAAs everyone knows takedowns, takedown defense, and how to mat wrestle. Everyone is strong, eveyrone is fast, and everyone has great cardio. The same can not be said for high school wrestling.

More recently, I saw this kid who was a High School National Champion place 5th at Divison 3 NCAAs. Divison 3, not even D1.

So I hope this gives you some idea what I am talking about. Just because Sanchez can take people down in MMA and was a high school state champ, does not mean he would do as well as Hughes in D1. Acctually, I highly doubt he would come close. Like said, Diego could not even takedown Alessio or Riggs and you expect him to outwrestle Hughes....????

Yeah...Diego faked one takedown on Riggs before he detroyed him, what are you talking about not being able to take Riggs down? Anyways, you might have a point comparing Hughes and Diego's wrestling accomplishments if they even wrestled in the same decade, but Hughes wrestled along time ago and is far far away from his All american status, which really isn't the biggest deal in the world.

[Rhino_Man]

Originally Posted by Palma Wrestler

Yeah...Diego faked one takedown on Riggs before he detroyed him, what are you talking about not being able to take Riggs down? Anyways, you might have a point comparing Hughes and Diego's wrestling accomplishments if they even wrestled in the same decade, but Hughes wrestled along time ago and is far far away from his All american status, which really isn't the biggest deal in the world.

WOW, never heard anyone questions Hughes wresting abilities before. Matt has won how many fights strictly because he is a great wrestler?? Many.

That fact that he is such a great wrestler has allowed him to beat guys with much better standup and JJ.