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Originally Posted by Rufio

Accuracy and snap in your punches are ALSO factors in hitting hard. You can be the strongest guy in the world, but your punch won't hurt as much as it could if it's not thrown accurately and quickly. Timing is mainly about knowing the right time to throw the hit so that it hits in the right spot. I maintain that the only difference between hitting hard and KOing people with your hits is where they land.

"kinetic linking". National Geographic channels "Fight Science" documentary explained it perfectly. If anyone here hasn't seen it, I highly reccomend you do.

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Originally Posted by Palma Wrestler

Yes, yes, yes, I don't care what your beliefs are. I understand what you were trying to say, and don't believe you are a racisit. Regardless, you obviously haven't watched Rashad fight, or you didn't pay attention, or you just don't understand much about fighting other then what people tell you. Well, I'm telling you. Rashad is a better boxer then Chuck (Chuck isn't a boxer he's a kickboxer) and a better Wrestler. No offense to Chuck, he wrestled for Cal Poly which is a great Div I team, but that was a long time ago. My original point is Rashad is dogged by MMA fans for no good reason. He's getting better every fight and is learning how to tie his boxing and wrestling together into something that will win in MMA. He's got the tools and if you disagree, why not disagree politely?

I understand you are a rashad fan but there is nothing you can say that will convince me that he is on Chucks level, he has beat NO ONE!!
I am not disputing he is a good wrestler and has potential but you guys are saying he can beat chuck and that just wouldnt happen, pure fantasy!
If you think he is a better boxer than Chuck go out and buy the Chuck instructional dvds and watch and learn, I highly doubt you will ever see rashad do the things with his hands that chuck does.
I have been obsessed with all things mma for 14 years and I have probably seen more fights live than you have seen on tv. We can disagree thats fine but dont confuse me with some tuffer newbie who dont know jack like most of these people in here!

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Originally Posted by theDonTurtle

I understand you are a rashad fan but there is nothing you can say that will convince me that he is on Chucks level, he has beat NO ONE!!
I am not disputing he is a good wrestler and has potential but you guys are saying he can beat chuck and that just wouldnt happen, pure fantasy!
If you think he is a better boxer than Chuck go out and buy the Chuck instructional dvds and watch and learn, I highly doubt you will ever see rashad do the things with his hands that chuck does.
I have been obsessed with all things mma for 14 years and I have probably seen more fights live than you have seen on tv. We can disagree thats fine but dont confuse me with some tuffer newbie who dont know jack like most of these people in here!

Bro Chuck can show whatever he wants in an instructional, but in MMA he hasnt shown to be a better boxer then Rashad, hes a KO artist and a good one but hes not a good boxer, cuz hes a counter-puncer.. not a boxer.. Rashad is def. better in that category, and if they fought tomorrow.. Chuck wins hands down! let Rashad reach his potential like Chuck has and we'll see what happens IMO Rashads potential outweighs Chuck.

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Originally Posted by Afro Samurai

Bro Chuck can show whatever he wants in an instructional, but in MMA he hasnt shown to be a better boxer then Rashad, hes a KO artist and a good one but hes not a good boxer, cuz hes a counter-puncer.. not a boxer.. Rashad is def. better in that category, and if they fought tomorrow.. Chuck wins hands down! let Rashad reach his potential like Chuck has and we'll see what happens IMO Rashads potential outweighs Chuck.

so professional boxers who are counter punchers arent boxers, and by the time Rashad reaches his potential chuck will be sittin on the beach for a living

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Originally Posted by theDonTurtle

so professional boxers who are counter punchers arent boxers, and by the time Rashad reaches his potential chuck will be sittin on the beach for a living

name one PRo Boxer that is only good at counter-punching please.. not only is there technique uncomparable, but boxers styles are made for Boxing not MMA.. no boxer backpedals in the ring aiming for a one shot KO.

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Originally Posted by Afro Samurai

name one PRo Boxer that is only good at counter-punching please.. not only is there technique uncomparable, but boxers styles are made for Boxing not MMA.. no boxer backpedals in the ring aiming for a one shot KO.

Im not saying any pro boxer is only good at counter punching ,Chuck isnt only good at counter puching thats my point, he is most comfortable fighting that style but he has great boxing skills. It kind of goes without sayin that all boxers are counter punchers ....DUH

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Back to the point of Rashad he has only looked good in one fight and I never seen this amazing boxing skill of his in any fight

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Originally Posted by theDonTurtle

Im not saying any pro boxer is only good at counter punching ,Chuck isnt only good at counter puching thats my point, he is most comfortable fighting that style but he has great boxing skills. It kind of goes without sayin that all boxers are counter punchers ....DUH

I just dont see his great boxign skills, hes shown bad defense and poor technique as a striker if you ask me.. its been said over and over again that he leaves his chin out, his feet are too wide, and his hands stay too low.. he doesnt block punches well and he throws looping punches.. his best attribute is his counter-striking..but when hes gone up against people with better boxing or striking they exploited all his weaknesses, he couldnt outbox Rampage ill use that as a lone example. Hes best when he is backpedaling and counter-punching, hes at his worst when he is the aggressor. Thats how a Rashad vs Chuck fight would go, Chuck would try to counter-punch with RAshad and knock him out if he actually tried to exhacnge blows with Rashad he would lose by points, the difference maker in a fight between them would be Rashads chin.. if its made of Irons like Rampages then Chuck would be in for a long fight.. cuz its hard for Chuck to fend off a fighters striking with his bad defense and defend takedowns at the same time, especially a GREAT wrestler like Rashad.. the guys Chuck has faced, average strikers.. he can focus on the takedown D cuz these guys arent gonna effect him striking.. when hes faced guys that can strike with great wrestling its always gave him problems, and rightfully so..

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Originally Posted by Afro Samurai

I just dont see his great boxign skills, hes shown bad defense and poor technique as a striker if you ask me.. its been said over and over again that he leaves his chin out, his feet are too wide, and his hands stay too low.. he doesnt block punches well and he throws looping punches.. his best attribute is his counter-striking..but when hes gone up against people with better boxing or striking they exploited all his weaknesses, he couldnt outbox Rampage ill use that as a lone example. Hes best when he is backpedaling and counter-punching, hes at his worst when he is the aggressor. Thats how a Rashad vs Chuck fight would go, Chuck would try to counter-punch with RAshad and knock him out if he actually tried to exhacnge blows with Rashad he would lose by points, the difference maker in a fight between them would be Rashads chin.. if its made of Irons like Rampages then Chuck would be in for a long fight.. cuz its hard for Chuck to fend off a fighters striking with his bad defense and defend takedowns at the same time, especially a GREAT wrestler like Rashad.. the guys Chuck has faced, average strikers.. he can focus on the takedown D cuz these guys arent gonna effect him striking.. when hes faced guys that can strike with great wrestling its always gave him problems, and rightfully so..

Chuck has faced his share of strikers much better than rashad vitor/Overeem/mezger/ even babalu has decent striking everyone is a "average" striker in ufc lh compared to chuck. I just dont see anyway that Evans could outstrike him or keep him down if he gets him down. Maybe in 3 or 4 years but if chuck is still around he wont be in his prime so we will probably never know

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Originally Posted by theDonTurtle

Chuck has faced his share of strikers much better than rashad vitor/Overeem/mezger/ even babalu has decent striking everyone is a "average" striker in ufc lh compared to chuck. I just dont see anyway that Evans could outstrike him or keep him down if he gets him down. Maybe in 3 or 4 years but if chuck is still around he wont be in his prime so we will probably never know

Did u see the Overeem fight? he took Overeem to the ground cuz he couldnt handle his striking

Mezger is a crappy fighter so is Vitor, Vitors hand speed and strength might be better then Rashad, but technical skills... No Vitor was your average MMA striker that swung for the fences with no real technical skills. Babalu is an average striker, but is still pretty sloppy and not crips. The only good striker you named was Overeem, and Chuck couldnt strike with him.