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Supe · #11 (**permalink**) 11-27-2006, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by MichaelK

Traditionally, the third event in a series of events is commonly known as a "rubber match." This takes place when each person or team scores a victory over the other, causing a third and final confrontation to take place in which a definitive winner is determined.

See also:

Antonio Rodrigo Nogueria Vs Heath Herring 1,2
Antonio Rodrigo Nogueria Vs Fedor Emelianenko 1,2,3 (all of which were wins by Fedor. Why not stop after two. Fight three mad no logical sense at all.)
Paulo Fihlo Vs Akira Shoji 1,2
Mirko Flipovic Vs Josh Barnett 1,2,3 (Again. all three fights going to Mirko).
Wanderlei Silva Vs Kazushi Sakuraba 1,2,3

See, all promotions do it, not just UFC. There are MANY more than thre ones listed, I just wanted to bring those to your attention.

Lets not forget Fedor vs Mark Coleman 1,2.....why the hell did we have to see this fight twice.

Donny77 · #12 (**permalink**) 11-27-2006, 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MichaelK

Traditionally, the third event in a series of events is commonly known as a "rubber match." This takes place when each person or team scores a victory over the other, causing a third and final confrontation to take place in which a definitive winner is determined.

See also:

Antonio Rodrigo Nogueria Vs Heath Herring 1,2
Antonio Rodrigo Nogueria Vs Fedor Emelianenko 1,2,3 (all of which were wins by Fedor. Why not stop after two. Fight three mad no logical sense at all.)
Paulo Fihlo Vs Akira Shoji 1,2
Mirko Flipovic Vs Josh Barnett 1,2,3 (Again. all three fights going to Mirko).
Wanderlei Silva Vs Kazushi Sakuraba 1,2,3

See, all promotions do it, not just UFC. There are MANY more than thre ones listed, I just wanted to bring those to your attention.

Oh ya its like this in every org. I just stated the UFC rematches b/c the thread starter is talking bout UFC.

MichaelK · #13 (**permalink**) 11-27-2006, 04:30 PM

Points taken, guys. I am in no way trying to morph this into another Pride Vs UFC thread. I just figured it would be a good idea to point out that other promotions also have weak divisions and need to seek out talent as well.

It would be nice to see UFC streal a few Pride heavyweights, but I don't really see that happening. How did all the talk about Aleks going to UFC start, by the way? Can any of this be confirmed or denied?

Clint · #14 (**permalink**) 11-27-2006, 04:32 PM

The problem is that right now in the sport there is a large gap between the very top tier fighters and the rest of the fighters. So there are only a few fighters in each class that honestly have a chance at winning the title. There are plenty of guys in each weight class but they just aren't high enough level to challenge for the belt.

iced · #15 (**permalink**) 11-27-2006, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by MichaelK

Points taken, guys. I am in no way trying to morph this into another Pride Vs UFC thread. I just figured it would be a good idea to point out that other promotions also have weak divisions and need to seek out talent as well.

It would be nice to see UFC streal a few Pride heavyweights, but I don't really see that happening. How did all the talk about Aleks going to UFC start, by the way? Can any of this be confirmed or denied?

i havn't heard anything aside from this article, but this is where it may have started.

http://www.mmauniverse.com/news/SS994

ArMnHC · #16 (**permalink**) 11-27-2006, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Donny77

Ya ur not shittin about too many rematches... Check this out...................

Ken vs Tito 1,2,3
Chuck vs Randy 1,2,3
Randy vs Vitor 1,2,3
Tim vs AA 1,2,3
Matt vs BJ 1,2
Matt vs GSP 1,2
Chuck vs Tito 1,2
Hughes vs Trigg 1,2
Chuck vs Babalu 1,2
.................................................. ..... The list goes on and on

actually according to Randy, that was Randy vs. Vitor 2.5 LOL

NinjaShogunRua · #17 (**permalink**) 11-27-2006, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by MichaelK

Antonio Rodrigo Nogueria Vs Fedor Emelianenko 1,2,3 (all of which were wins by Fedor. Why not stop after two. Fight three mad no logical sense at all.)See, all promotions do it, not just UFC. There are MANY more than thre ones listed, I just wanted to bring those to your attention.

They had a 3rd Nog/Fedor fight because the 2nd one ended in a NC. Their their 2nd fight took place in the Finals of the 2004 HW GP. The fight was called a NC due to a large open cut on Fedor's forehead. They rescheduled the fight a few months later at Shockwave 2004. Fedor won and became the 2004 HW GP champ. So the 3rd fight was logical IMO

Besides that, you make a very good point. Rematches happen alot in all organizations. It's not just a UFC thing at all.

MichaelK · #18 (**permalink**) 11-27-2006, 10:05 PM

Thanks for the correction. I used PrideFC.com as my source for the information. Both fighters' pages declare Fedor as the winner of all three fights.

See what happens when you debate with innacurate information? You get owned, kids. Let this be a lesson to all.

Dork8503 · #19 (**permalink**) 11-27-2006, 11:27 PM

yeah it does happen, all over the place, but seems to happen alot in the ufc, but thats only because ive only watched a few pride shows so im not saying that it dont happen more or just as much there, just havnt watched it enough to make that statment.

BigJoe111 · #20 (**permalink**) 11-29-2006, 04:26 PM

I think that instead of bringning in new talent, which does make sense, the UFC needs to do a better job of keeping talent that they do have. Ivan Salaverry, Frank Shamrock, Carlos Newton, Josh Barnett, Vitor Belfort, Sudo, Semmy Schlitt, and Randleman. Just think how much the UFC would look right now if they had kept that list of guys who have fought and at one point been under contract with the UFC. Yeah it would be nice to see new talent, but not keeping guys is a huge issue as well.