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Old 11-24-2006, 05:03 PM
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Good luck with that. I hope he knocks your stupid ass out. That was so long, Chuck was a skinny kid then. I love how every one in SLO "knows" Chuck.
Chuck was the SAME SIZE 3 years ago as he is now and furthermore, why don't you go into detail on how CHuck is a totall;y different fighter now as opposed to 3 years ago.

I am very interested in knowing this.
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Old 11-24-2006, 05:13 PM
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I've always given more credit to strikers who knock out grapplers (for the most part) just because they won't engage and constantly ties their hands up. I know some grapplers have no busines striking but really they have no business in MMA.

And who are these grapplers that have no business in MMA.

You seem to dig a deeper hole with every post.

From claiming 3 years was a long time ago to Chuck was a skinny kid 3 years ago to Chuck is twice the striker now than he was 3 years ago to now claiming some grapplers have no busines in MMA.

Educate me...
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Old 11-24-2006, 05:28 PM
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And who are these grapplers that have no business in MMA.

You seem to dig a deeper hole with every post.

From claiming 3 years was a long time ago to Chuck was a skinny kid 3 years ago to Chuck is twice the striker now than he was 3 years ago to now claiming some grapplers have no busines in MMA.

Educate me...
I'd love to educate you but I'm not a special ed teacher. Sorry I haven't got the time to make understand considering your special need. You're gay for Pride and there is no sense arguing with someone who doesn't have the capability to believe they could be wrong. You Have your opinon and I have the facts. Lidell is the Champ period. You can discount his abilities because you know he won't be fighting Pride anytime soon. Good luck with your endevours window licker.
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Old 11-24-2006, 05:34 PM
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I have the facts.
Here's some facts:

Chuck got raped by Rampage!
Rampage was the last striker he fought!
Rampage was not and is not the best striker @ lhw!

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I am a 50/50 UFC/Pride guy and I can say here are "The Facts"

Win Renato Sobral TKO (Strikes) UFC 62-Liddell vs Sobral 8/26/2006 1 1:35

(Renato = BJJ)

Win Randy Couture KO (Punch) UFC 57-Liddell vs Couture 3 2/4/2006 2 1:28

(Randy = Wrestler)

Win Jeremy Horn TKO UFC 54-Boiling Point 8/20/2005 4 2:46

(Horn = BJJ)

Win Randy Couture KO (Punches) UFC 52-Couture vs Liddell 2 4/16/2005 1 2:06

(Randy Wrestler)

Win Vernon White KO (Punch) UFC 49-Unfinished Business 8/21/2004 1 4:05

(Vernon = Submission (sucks bad))

Win Tito Ortiz KO (Punches) UFC 47-It's On 4/2/2004 2 0:38

(Tito = GnP Wrestler)

Loss Quinton Jackson TKO (Strikes) PRIDE-Final Conflict 2003 11/9/2003 2 3:10

(Quinton = Wrestler w/good strikes)



These are the facts...Liddel hasn't fought a striker since he lost to Rampage and even then Rampage is classified as a Wrestler w/good chin and decent stand up.

Chuck is good, but not #1 in the world until he beats a top striker.
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Old 11-24-2006, 05:52 PM
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I'd love to educate you but I'm not a special ed teacher. Sorry I haven't got the time to make understand considering your special need. You're gay for Pride and there is no sense arguing with someone who doesn't have the capability to believe they could be wrong. You Have your opinon and I have the facts. Lidell is the Champ period. You can discount his abilities because you know he won't be fighting Pride anytime soon. Good luck with your endevours window licker.
I am still waiting for you to educate no how Chuck is a different fighter now than 3 years ago...

Explain instead of dodging the question with childish insults.

I admit when I am wrong, this however is not one of those instances and you're being foolish.
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I am still waiting for you to educate no how Chuck is a different fighter now than 3 years ago...

Explain instead of dodging the question with childish insults.

I admit when I am wrong, this however is not one of those instances and you're being foolish.
Yeah but you have to admit the "gay for Pride" comment was funny....
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I am a 50/50 UFC/Pride guy and I can say here are "The Facts"

Win Renato Sobral TKO (Strikes) UFC 62-Liddell vs Sobral 8/26/2006 1 1:35

(Renato = BJJ)

Win Randy Couture KO (Punch) UFC 57-Liddell vs Couture 3 2/4/2006 2 1:28

(Randy = Wrestler)

Win Jeremy Horn TKO UFC 54-Boiling Point 8/20/2005 4 2:46

(Horn = BJJ)

Win Randy Couture KO (Punches) UFC 52-Couture vs Liddell 2 4/16/2005 1 2:06

(Randy Wrestler)

Win Vernon White KO (Punch) UFC 49-Unfinished Business 8/21/2004 1 4:05

(Vernon = Submission (sucks bad))

Win Tito Ortiz KO (Punches) UFC 47-It's On 4/2/2004 2 0:38

(Tito = GnP Wrestler)

Loss Quinton Jackson TKO (Strikes) PRIDE-Final Conflict 2003 11/9/2003 2 3:10

(Quinton = Wrestler w/good strikes)



These are the facts...Liddel hasn't fought a striker since he lost to Rampage and even then Rampage is classified as a Wrestler w/good chin and decent stand up.

Chuck is good, but not #1 in the world until he beats a top striker.
Those are indeed facts and 3 years ago Chuck was the same fighter with the exception that he is not as agressive as he was 3 years ago due to him only facing wrestlers and grapplers, that IMO hurts him more than it hepls him as he has been training patience these past 3 years and when he faces a striker or were to face Rampage again, I see no reason or proof in Chuck's miraculous so called improvement in these past 3 years that would lead me to believe the outcome would be any different, Rampage's style matches up too well with Chuck's. a wrestler with a great chin and good striking, that is Chuck's game but Rampage is much stronger and athletic.
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I agree that chuck hasn't fought any great strikers since rampage but he has improved since they fought. Just his confidence alone will make him a better fighter. When you become champ and defend for so long you become a better fighter because of what is between your head with experience and wins under your belt. I don't see rampage beating chuck now. You really wil never know but chuck definitely will be the favorite going in. Now chuck and vanderlei would be a toss up.
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I don't think this Palma guy is worth talking to tbh. Almost every post he makes is extreme nonsense, and usually plain Pride bashing or UFC feltching. Here's his 2nd post ever on this forum (lol):

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The only Bull Shit is Silva talking to Chuck like he'll last a round. Silva not only sucks now, he always sucked. Why else does he fight in Pride. I think they should start calling it Hide fighting since everyone in that leauge is Hiding from the UFC after they get their ass handed to them. Oh yeah, Pride sucks.
No, -you- suck.

He also dares to bring up the Tito Silva fight, even though Rampage's Chuck whooping was 'ages ago'
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