Ben Rothwell blasts Steve Mazzagatti's stoppage - Page 3

Viper2076 · #21 (**permalink**) 11-03-2009, 01:49 PM

Cain mauled him. Its not a fight if all you do is get punched in the face for 7 minutes. Ben didn't defend himself, he just didn't get knocked out cold.

Jardinewinstko · #22 (**permalink**) 11-03-2009, 01:51 PM

cain has 0 power anyone who punches sum1 that much and cant hurt them or ko them is weak, so cain can wrestle thats all i have seen from him, he couldnt finish a lw if he tried!

Daellusx · #23 (**permalink**) 11-03-2009, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Heavyweight770

I hear what you're saying, but a fighter always has a "puncher's chance". Especially a powerful striker like Rothwell. You can say the same for submissions. Watch the Minatauro vs. Sylvia fight. He was getting blasted by Timmy over and over again, but all he needed was one good position to change the outcome of the fight. While I agree that most likely Cain would have dominated the rest of the fight, you can not simply project what the rest of the fight will be like and call it prematurely. It was an unfair stoppage. Simple as that.

If we are going to call fights based on the ref's predictions, A. Silva would never step into the cage and Fedor would never have to leave Russia...

True, these guys always have a punchers chance, but as a referee how much damage should you let a guy take to give him that chance? The ref is there for the fighters safety and some fighters just dont know when to quit.
I would rather a ref stop a fight to save the fighter from taking damage that could have negative effects further down the line like in the case of Big Nog then to let a fight continue just to see if he can pull out a win. How much damage has Big Nog suffered because of all those wars he was in where he just did not quit and the ref continued to let him fight? Sure the guy won several fights that way but how much shorter has his career become because of it? The guy is barely in his early 30's and looks like he's in his late 40's. He even sounds like his speech has started to slow down. I dont want the guy to end up like so many boxers who cant talk cleary because of the damage suffered from so many blows to the head.

Masscore · #24 (**permalink**) 11-03-2009, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Jardinewinstko

cain has 0 power anyone who punches sum1 that much and cant hurt them or ko them is weak, so cain can wrestle thats all i have seen from him, he couldnt finish a lw if he tried!

Thats a strange statement cause ummm Cain has finished everyone he has fought except Kongo. So what if the guy does not have one punch KO power, he keeps such a crazy pace and is relentless he forces the ref to pull him off. I would like you to name any other HW that could throw over 200 punches in 3 rounds and not break a sweat doing it. I do not see how any one can say Cain does not have finishing power when he has only gone the distance once.

As far as the stoppage goes, the fight should have been stopped in the first several times. Cain was destorying him and I believe one judge even scored the first round 10-7 which might have been an UFC first. Could Rothwell have continued, of course. But are we all really that sadistic that we needed to see the slaughter continue?

pimpslappd · #25 (**permalink**) 11-03-2009, 02:40 PM

his face might not have looked like he got in a fight the next day but directly during and after the fight it sure did.

Pashak · #26 (**permalink**) 11-03-2009, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Irate94

WAR chris benoit

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Y2JUBAE · #27 (**permalink**) 11-03-2009, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Tem0n

You got that right! Rothwell got schooled, to bad he can't face facts. He has 1 more fight in my opinion before he gets cut, Rothwell vs. Roy Nelson!
Then win or lose both guys should get cut for being to full of themselves.

Fight happened 2 years ago. Roth(excuse)well won by decision.

stpierrecanada · #28 (**permalink**) 11-03-2009, 05:19 PM

Yes... Another shitty call by Mazzagatti...He is def the most incompetent referee in the sport, him and Mirogliotta.

He is the cecil peoples of reffing IMO.

stpierrecanada · #29 (**permalink**) 11-03-2009, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Tem0n

You got that right! Rothwell got schooled, to bad he can't face facts. He has 1 more fight in my opinion before he gets cut, Rothwell vs. Roy Nelson!
Then win or lose both guys should get cut for being to full of themselves.

1 more fight? wtf? Cain is one of the top up-and-comers in the UFC. Rothwell is a monster and Roy is a great fighter...Don't know what you'rew talking about.

KillahKimbo · #30 (**permalink**) 11-03-2009, 05:21 PM

good stoppage, ben was getting raped for 2 rounds