Apparently, when it comes to people whom do not train with real disciplines, they seem to think that all fighters stay the same and never truely improve. They believe GSP(hands down) will lose to BJ Penn, Anderson Silva can never be beat(keep in mind he never truely had even Patrick Cote in any real danger until the injury), Fedor is invincible, and that others fighters are always going to be boring, lame, counter strikers, etc...I thought when you learn a discipline, as myself trains in three, you improve with every fight, tournament, or training day? Very odd way of thinking. Especially considering anybody can be beat on any given day when it comes to game plans people. If one executes correctly, then game over.
I have trained BJJ, Muay Thai, and boxing. I don't understand why you are saying this. Can you quote someone stating these things? I believe that in any fight, any fighter has a chance to win at any given time....that is just how it is at this level and I would like to assume that everyone on this board is aware of that. We all have our favorite fighters and we will probably all argue on behalf of our favorites. BJ is my favorite fighter EVER and I still understand that GSP has a good chance of winning. I just think comparing BJs skills to GSP skills, that BJ has the better and more rounded skill set so that leads me to believe that he will win the fight. There may be some people on the board that post those things just to get other members going, but I think if you truly ask them, they will answer with a "yes" GSP does have a shot at winning.
With some of the fights that have happened this year, I don't think anyone on the board should think that any fighter is invincible.
Niether are over looking each other may come down to who had the better camp. Less injuries and peaking at fight time. I hope BJ takes it
If it comes down the camp(which it probably will) then you have to give the edge to GSP. As dedicated as BJ is it's really hard to bet against Jackson's camp right now.
I'm pulling for BJ this time, if for no other reason than if he wins we'll get to see these two go at it a 3rd time. Plus, BJ at lightweight kind of spoils the division. Kenflo had me thinking for a minute last night that he might have a shot in hell, however, I must confess.
Styles make fights, and we have got 2 guys who are well rounded, but have their own strenghts. BJ's BJJ is amazing, but GSP has sub/sub defense skill. BJ did not sub him in the first fight, I would have thought if he was going to sub GSP that would have been the time. Penn was a black belt back then, and GSP was just starting to get rolling. I don't see either one of them subbing the other. GSP is the best functional MMA fighter going. There are obviously guys with better wrestling pedigrees, but GSP uses his wrestling skills as applied to a mma fight better than anyone else fighting today. See Fitch, Koscheck, and Hughes. All were all american/national champ wrestlers in college, and GSP out wrestled them all. he took them all down at will and controlled them with little trouble. Throw in Serra, while not a great wrestler, he does have very good bjj, and he posed no problems for GSP on the ground in that second fight.
BJ's striking is improved, he out struck Joe Daddy and Sherk, though neither are even close to GSP's league.
In this fight someone is either going to get TKOed by ground and pound, or it goes 5 epic rounds to a decision, which I see GSP winning, because of his take downs, and ability to control guys on the ground. Looking forward to an awesome fight. War GSP!
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One thing for sure BJ has the freakesh flexiblity to pull off wierd sub's. I also think GSP lost a lot of faith in his striking ability after Serra 1 fight. GSP should be able to get BJ to the ground but don't think he well be able to do anything. There both champs for a reason there that good.
Apparently, when it comes to people whom do not train with real disciplines, they seem to think that all fighters stay the same and never truely improve. They believe GSP(hands down) will lose to BJ Penn, Anderson Silva can never be beat(keep in mind he never truely had even Patrick Cote in any real danger until the injury), Fedor is invincible, and that others fighters are always going to be boring, lame, counter strikers, etc...I thought when you learn a discipline, as myself trains in three, you improve with every fight, tournament, or training day? Very odd way of thinking. Especially considering anybody can be beat on any given day when it comes to game plans people. If one executes correctly, then game over.
Most people here train with "real disciplines"... and sure all fighters improve with every fight and every training camp and so do their opponents. But by your logic wouldn't every believe that GSP will win since he won the first time? Basically everyone who thinks Penn will win is saying that he has improved with his last 4 fights just as you are saying a fighter improves.
But there is a huge factor that you are completely over looking. Since you train 3 disciplines then you know that some people are just more naturally inclined then others. I guarantee that there are people you train with that you just simply can't get the better of because either they are just more talented or more experienced.
I don't understand why bj would claim that gsp is not technical...he's very technical in all aspects of mma from boxing, wrestling to bjj... I don't think it's a good idea for him to think that way cuz he's pretty much underestimating gsp which can lead to gsp winning the fight in a devestating fashion
I don't understand why bj would claim that gsp is not technical...he's very technical in all aspects of mma from boxing, wrestling to bjj... I don't think it's a good idea for him to think that way cuz he's pretty much underestimating gsp which can lead to gsp winning the fight in a devestating fashion
GSP is not a technical fighter... that is a fact. His physical abilities allow him to get away with some bad technique in almost every fight he is in.
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