Tito implies Ibarra ripped off Rampage

[hunterkiller]

The solution is simple, Rampage and Tito need to re-form Team Punishment and push each other to get back to top form. They both have said they are great friends so why not?

[AJL416AZ]

not the first time Juanito has been accused of stealing

[kc56]

If Rampage said he was cool paying $65k to train with Juanito, then that was the going rate. Paying almost double to train with him versus Tito makes 100% sense to me. I guess this is one of the things where you get what you pay for. Rampage was middle of the pack when he trained with Tito. He was world champion when he trained with Juanito. I am willing to bet his pay reflected it as well. Traning with Tito he made ok money for ok results. Training with Juanito he was paid tons for being a champion.

So by Tito's logic, he was ripping off Frank and Lorenzo. They paid him close to a million dollars to beat Ken Shamrock, when Rich Franklin did it for about $20k to do the same thing.

Cool Tito, what else do you have for us?

If this is what they were talking about for "Juanito stealing from Rampage" I will be rather skeptical.

And as far as Rampage going to train with Tito? I think that is the worst idea I have seen in a while. Tito has nothing to offer Rampage from a fighting or training perspective. Tito has relinquished himself to the middle of the pack and has now put his future in Hollywood and in limbo. All of those are things I, as a fan of Rampage, would like to see Quinton avoid.

[Witchdoctor]

Originally Posted by kc56

If Rampage said he was cool paying $65k to train with Juanito, then that was the going rate. Paying almost double to train with him versus Tito makes 100% sense to me. I guess this is one of the things where you get what you pay for. Rampage was middle of the pack when he trained with Tito. He was world champion when he trained with Juanito. I am willing to bet his pay reflected it as well. Traning with Tito he made ok money for ok results. Training with Juanito he was paid tons for being a champion.

So by Tito's logic, he was ripping off Frank and Lorenzo. They paid him close to a million dollars to beat Ken Shamrock, when Rich Franklin did it for about $20k to do the same thing.

Cool Tito, what else do you have for us?

If this is what they were talking about for "Juanito stealing from Rampage" I will be rather skeptical.

And as far as Rampage going to train with Tito? I think that is the worst idea I have seen in a while. Tito has nothing to offer Rampage from a fighting or training perspective. Tito has relinquished himself to the middle of the pack and has now put his future in Hollywood and in limbo. All of those are things I, as a fan of Rampage, would like to see Quinton avoid.

Exactly.

BTW, didn't we all hear about Juanito bringing in Shane Mosley to train with Page? There's your extra 30k right there.

[goldie1692]

If it was not for Wandy being there, I think Extreme Couture would be a nice fit for Page. I don't see the Wolfliar being the answer, I mean isn't the reason Bisping started training with Rampage because of the lack of quality training partners there?

[Intellectual]

Rampage was also training with Chris Riley. The guy is an excellent Muay Thai kickboxer to have on your side. He's trained with Rob Kaman and knows the perfect striking transition into MMA.

[xrjxarsonx]

i think some people here are missing the point. tito isnt saying rampage paid 65 thousand for ibarra's training camp, hes saying rampage paid ibarra 65 thousand for titos training camp. tito doesnt know what got spent on what, hes saying no other fighter has spent more than 35 thousand to come up to big bear with him so where did the other 30 thousand go?

i am a freelance artist so ive been in this situation with an agent/manager before. if ibarra set up the training camp with tito, rampage wouldnt know he was being over charged. rampage wouldnt show up asking what costs what, or why am i paying so much for this. that is his managers job, and rampage is suppose to be able to trust his manager. some people are saying the extra money went to ibarra, and it got rampage a championship so its okay and he shouldn't complain. the average pay for a manager is 10 to 20 percent, maybe ibarra is getting more, we dont know. either way, they dont just double the clients expenses and pocket the rest. thats bullshit.

we dont have enough details, and tito has made a career out of exaggerating certain facts, so im not making a judgement. it sounds plausible but i guess we'll find out the truth eventually.

[Piz]

He probably did! Look, he's a Mexican!! Same as my best friend! My best friend does nothing but try to scam me, but I love him, so I brush it off! He banged 2 of my EX girl-friends already and is most likely counting on a 3rd to manhandle!!!

Tito implies Ibarra ripped off Rampage? I BELIEVE IT! A MEXICAN with a plan is more dangerous then a Nazi with a Luger and a Swastika tatted on his chest!! Rampage out-the-Game!!!



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[kc56]

Originally Posted by xrjxarsonx

i think some people here are missing the point. tito isnt saying rampage paid 65 thousand for ibarra's training camp, hes saying rampage paid ibarra 65 thousand for titos training camp. tito doesnt know what got spent on what, hes saying no other fighter has spent more than 35 thousand to come up to big bear with him so where did the other 30 thousand go?

i am a freelance artist so ive been in this situation with an agent/manager before. if ibarra set up the training camp with tito, rampage wouldnt know he was being over charged. rampage wouldnt show up asking what costs what, or why am i paying so much for this. that is his managers job, and rampage is suppose to be able to trust his manager. some people are saying the extra money went to ibarra, and it got rampage a championship so its okay and he shouldn't complain. the average pay for a manager is 10 to 20 percent, maybe ibarra is getting more, we dont know. either way, they dont just double the clients expenses and pocket the rest. thats bullshit.

we dont have enough details, and tito has made a career out of exaggerating certain facts, so im not making a judgement. it sounds plausible but i guess we'll find out the truth eventually.

I think maybe it was you who missed the whole point here. Rampage has been training at Big Bear with Juanito and for that he pays $65k. Tito is saying that he has been doing training at Big Bear for 7 years and it was never that much. Juanito was not farming out Rampage to go train under Tito.

The point is, Tito ran his training camps for Tito. If any other fighters were up there to train with him (Hammil, Grove, even Ricco) they were training with Tito. He was the draw. Juanito was bringing higher caliber fighters for Rampage to train with, and he is a professional fighting trainer. There was talk about Juanito bringing in Shane Mosely and Chris Riley among others to train with Rampage.

What Tito is essentially saying here is that Morton's or Ruth's Chris is a rip off because you can get a steak at Applebees for half the cost. Sorry, but Tito is Mc Donald's compared to Juanito as for as training goes...

Originally Posted by Piz

He probably did! Look, he's a Mexican!! Same as my best friend! My best friend does nothing but try to scam me, but I love him, so I brush it off! He banged 2 of my EX girl-friends already and is most likely counting on a 3rd to manhandle!!!

Tito implies Ibarra ripped off Rampage? I BELIEVE IT! A MEXICAN with a plan is more dangerous then a Nazi with a Luger and a Swastika tatted on his chest!! Rampage out-the-Game!!!



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Neg'd!

[mauladala]

Originally Posted by Piz

He probably did! Look, he's a Mexican!! Same as my best friend! My best friend does nothing but try to scam me, but I love him, so I brush it off! He banged 2 of my EX girl-friends already and is most likely counting on a 3rd to manhandle!!!

Tito implies Ibarra ripped off Rampage? I BELIEVE IT! A MEXICAN with a plan is more dangerous then a Nazi with a Luger and a Swastika tatted on his chest!! Rampage out-the-Game!!!



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what...the...fuck... wow