Cream of the crop: fights they lost......

[Severn]

I thought GSP submitted to Serra due to strikes. I saw him tap when Serra was going crazy on him.

[neonatural45]

Originally Posted by Severn

I thought GSP submitted to Serra due to strikes. I saw him tap when Serra was going crazy on him.

He tapped after Big John had already motioned to stop the fight I think

[MrSpanky]

i saw the silva v. okami fight somewhere before all i remember is silva was winnin like always then he was on his back with okami in his gaurd but okami had his knees down and silva just from open guard kinda did an upkick or axe kick form the bottom and caught okami pretty good to the point that they called it a DQ. prob just he dint speak english and didnt understand no kicks to the head of a downed (knees on floor) figther

[Thor's Hammer]

I'm sorry, I just can't consider Fedor's "loss" a real loss. I've seen the fight many times and it just wasn't a loss in my eyes. It was illegal elbow that cut him 10 seconds into the fight (it was unintentional) and should have been called a NC.

Didn't Rogan say once that it WAS going to be called a NC but since it was a tournament someone had to advance and the doctors wouldn't let Fedor advance with the cut so they had to award a win to Kohsaka?? Am I just dreaming that or did someone say it? I'm pretty sure it was either Bas or Rogan that said that.

The coolest thing about all of it is I care more about whether it was a real loss than Fedor does. That guy has to be the most simple and humble fighter I've ever seen.

War Fedor!

[Ramma]

^^ Yeah. The only reason Kohsaka won the fight was because it was a tournament... someone had to move up and Fedor obviously couldn't.. in a normal fight, it would have just been declared a NC I imagine. It was the first punch, so I don't think a DQ would have been the decision.

[subman]

Originally Posted by Ramma

Regardless of what his official website says.. I watched the fight, he beat the crap out of Kohsaka for 10 minutes.. finally, the doctors stopped the fight between the 1st and 2nd round. The rematch was in PRIDE.

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Still, to me, the best revenge beat down for a "loss" fight. Fedor just completely dominated TK. Beatdown extraordinaire.

Think he was a little pissed about the "loss" from the cut?

[carbondioxide830]

anderson dominated most of the fight w/ ryo up until he was submitted in the blink of an eye.

while penn did lose to hughes and pulver, remember that he also has wins over the 2 as well. the gsp loss was very controversial and i definately expect a rematch sometime soon. as for losing to machida, it was a decision loss to a much bigger opponent so you cant hold that against the prodigy

in fedor's case, his loss was due to an illegal elbow which technically would have made the bout a no contest or dq, but the fight was a tournament match and that HAD to be a winner to advance to the next round. the loss was avenged in great fedor fashion.

[Dsm634]

Originally Posted by rivethead

One other thing to point out with Fedor is the cut was caused by an illegal elbow and should have been called an NC or a win by disqualification.

I thought it WAS ruled a no contest...?

Either way it is unfair to tarnish a perfect record with a b.s. illegal blow.

I've been salty about that one for quite a while...

[astepawayfromx]

The Penn Machida fight was actually very close. Penn looked like budha, and machida still barely beat him. You can find the videos on you tube last I looked. If Penn was able to successfully clean out lw, and ww, then be successful at mw, maybe dana would let him fight machida, but it's pretty unlikely I'd have to say. Also, with his new dedication to the sport I'm not sure if he'd want to go up that high again, it would be extraordinarily difficult to maintain his cardio at the level he has been at recently with that type of weight gain.

The Penn GSP match I thought Penn already won, so that he will almost definitely be trying to avenge.

[notrightn0w]

Anderson Silva: 4 losses to;
Yushin Okami - illegal kick
(Anderson was winning and hit him with an up kick from open guard)
Ryo Chonan -Submission
(Flying Scissor Heel Hook) (Anderson was peppering Ryo with shots most of the fight and got caught in one of the craziest submissions ever)
Daiju Takase - Submission (Triangle Choke)
(Anderson simply got outworked on the ground, he got taken down once and never got up, he had to play defense the entire time. as we've seen he's definitely improved there. Working with Nog does that.
Luiz Azeredo - Decision
(I honestly haven't seen this, does anyone have a link?)

BJ Penn: 4 losses to;
Matt Hughes - TKO (Strikes)
(Bj was up until he a rib injury did him in. Either way it's a loss)
Georges St. Pierre - Decision (Split)
(Controversial decision. I think it could have easily been a draw, GSP probably did enough to win by half a point. I think Fight metric declared Bj the winner though... Definitely one of my favourite fights.)
Lyoto Machida - Decision (Unanimous)
(it's Machida.)
Jens Pulver - Decision (Majority)
(this was a very uninspired match, BJ bought his own hype and didn't care anymore, he assumed he'd walk in and win the belt. He actualy admit to it as well.)

Fedor: 1 loss to;
Tsuyoshi Kohsaka - TKO (Cut)
(illega elbow 17 seconds in, would have been a no contest but it was during a one night tournament. They needed a winner so they figured they'd use TK.)

GSP: 2 losses to;
Matt Serra - Technical Knock Out
(he got caught.)
Matt Hughes - Submission (Other)
(His mental state at the time is well documented. GSP wasn't ready to fight Hughes. He got caught in a an armbar and tapped with 1 second left in the round.)

Urijah Faber: 1 loss to;
Tyson Griffin - TKO (Strikes)
(I've only seen a highlight, it looked pretty good, Griffin using his size and strength a lot. I saw a deep knee bar from Faber. Faber got hit hard on the button with a right cross when he tried to superman punch. He went down and got pounded out.)