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Old 06-25-2008, 08:24 PM
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yeah, but tito dodged chuck for a year and a half. he's far from wand.
Come on dude, we all know Tito was trying to get Chuck to hold out to get paid more for the fight. He openly admitted it. It was about money, not about ducking Chuck.

And I'd like to see Tito fight Babalu or Lil Nog. It makes no difference to me.
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Come on dude, we all know Tito was trying to get Chuck to hold out to get paid more for the fight. He openly admitted it. It was about money, not about ducking Chuck.

And I'd like to see Tito fight Babalu or Lil Nog. It makes no difference to me.
Of course he would never claim he was dodging Chuck but his actions spoke louder and all his reasonings pointed to dodging Chuck. Tito declining to fight Chuck led to Randy/Liddell 1 for the interim LHW title. Tito only fought Chuck when he was finally forced into it after losing to Randy and having to earn his way back to a title shot.

Anyways... I dont care so much about Vernon White on this card but I for sure want to see Lil nog.
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Ohh fucking Christ! Why are people still talking about Tito ducking Chuck all these years and two fights later. Let it go everyone just let it go.
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Chuck and Tito have both said that Tito was trying to get Chuck to hold out for a bigger payday. He used that whole friends thing as an excuse. Chuck has said it, Tito has said it. I understand why some people don't like Tito but damn.
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Chuck and Tito have both said that Tito was trying to get Chuck to hold out for a bigger payday. He used that whole friends thing as an excuse. Chuck has said it, Tito has said it. I understand why some people don't like Tito but damn.
Who's this Tito guy?
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Who's this Tito guy?
Isnt he the guy from Hunnington Beach? ya know the guy with the beer gut and gray goatee?


But yeah, it was about money.... Both Chuck and Tito wanted more money, but of course Tito was taking the blame for holding out, not Chuck... I was there live at UFC 66 in an unrelated note...
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Chuck and Tito have both said that Tito was trying to get Chuck to hold out for a bigger payday. He used that whole friends thing as an excuse. Chuck has said it, Tito has said it. I understand why some people don't like Tito but damn.
ok, well that's not much better. also, he denied a rematch with rashad and forrest. he's not the kind of guy to take a fight on a few weeks notice is what i was getting at(unless that opponent is ken shamrock). no way does he replace tiger white against lil nog.

side note: i'm really tired of tito anyway. he was on a chicago radio show after losing to machida and said the fans wanted to see a fight and machida was running away the whole time and likened the fight to the quarry/starnes fight. he's just a guy i'm tired of hearing talk in the third person about himself.
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The July 19 "Affliction: Banned" event recently suffered its first card casualty, as K.O. Dynasty Management confirmed that Vernon "Tiger" White had been pulled from the event.

Affliction Vice President Tom Atencio today told MMAjunkie.com (UFC blog for UFC news, UFC rumors, fighter interviews and event previews/recaps | MMAjunkie.com) that the organization now has its sights set on UFC veteran Edwin Dewees (35-12-0) as a possible replacement to face Antonio Rogerio Nogueira (13-3).

"We're interested in Edwin Dewees," Atencio said. "I haven't had a chance to talk to him, but I know somebody's reaching out to him, and hopefully that will work out. But we're in talks right now."

As we reported earlier today, White was pulled from the card after testing positive for a banned diuretic after a May 31 Xtreme Fighting Association event in Las Vegas. Atencio said no sanctions have yet been levied on White, but he also said that Affliction could not wait until a decision was issued by the Nevada State Athletic Commission.

"I haven't talked to [White], but I know that he has a hearing on the ninth of July," Atencio said. "We just can't wait that long to find out what's going to happen to him."

In his place could step Dewees, a Lions Den fighter who spent two thirds of his career with the Arizona-based Rage in the Cage organization. Recently, after winning five of six fights, the 25-year-old fell into a four-fight losing skid. However, he rebounded in April for his most recent win: a first-round submission victory over Richard Blake at a NoLimit Fighting event.

Although he was hardly the biggest name on a star-studded card, the loss of White comes on the heels of the UFC's announcement that it will hold a card featuring middleweight champion Anderson Silva on the same evening as the "Affliction: Banned" event -- and air it on Spike TV for free. Although a portion of the Affliction card also airs on basic cable via FSN, the main card comes with a $39.95 pay-per-view price tag.

However, Atencio remains confident that the drawing power of the evening's fighters will still attract MMA's hardcore fans.

"Anybody that was going to buy our pay-per-view, I think they're still going to buy it," Atencio said. "I think the people that weren't going to buy it, [the UFC event] just gives them something to do now. I don't think it really changed the hardcore fans' outlook."

The Affliction executive also hinted at a still-to-come major marketing push that the organization hopes will bring in the casual audience as well.

"Right now, we haven't even broken water (on marketing) yet," Atencio said. "We're waiting until the push because we know a lot of people, especially the casual fan, they'll forget about it if we push too soon. ... We've sold about 8,000 tickets so far, and that's with minimal advertising."

Featuring three ex-UFC champions, both Emelianenko brothers, and the greatest assembled cast of recognizable names on a card outside the UFC, Atencio believes his card will stand up to any challenges between now and July 19.
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The July 19 "Affliction: Banned" event recently suffered its first card casualty, as K.O. Dynasty Management confirmed that Vernon "Tiger" White had been pulled from the event.

Affliction Vice President Tom Atencio today told MMAjunkie.com (UFC blog for UFC news, UFC rumors, fighter interviews and event previews/recaps | MMAjunkie.com) that the organization now has its sights set on UFC veteran Edwin Dewees (35-12-0) as a possible replacement to face Antonio Rogerio Nogueira (13-3).

"We're interested in Edwin Dewees," Atencio said. "I haven't had a chance to talk to him, but I know somebody's reaching out to him, and hopefully that will work out. But we're in talks right now."

As we reported earlier today, White was pulled from the card after testing positive for a banned diuretic after a May 31 Xtreme Fighting Association event in Las Vegas. Atencio said no sanctions have yet been levied on White, but he also said that Affliction could not wait until a decision was issued by the Nevada State Athletic Commission.

"I haven't talked to [White], but I know that he has a hearing on the ninth of July," Atencio said. "We just can't wait that long to find out what's going to happen to him."

In his place could step Dewees, a Lions Den fighter who spent two thirds of his career with the Arizona-based Rage in the Cage organization. Recently, after winning five of six fights, the 25-year-old fell into a four-fight losing skid. However, he rebounded in April for his most recent win: a first-round submission victory over Richard Blake at a NoLimit Fighting event.

Although he was hardly the biggest name on a star-studded card, the loss of White comes on the heels of the UFC's announcement that it will hold a card featuring middleweight champion Anderson Silva on the same evening as the "Affliction: Banned" event -- and air it on Spike TV for free. Although a portion of the Affliction card also airs on basic cable via FSN, the main card comes with a $39.95 pay-per-view price tag.

However, Atencio remains confident that the drawing power of the evening's fighters will still attract MMA's hardcore fans.

"Anybody that was going to buy our pay-per-view, I think they're still going to buy it," Atencio said. "I think the people that weren't going to buy it, [the UFC event] just gives them something to do now. I don't think it really changed the hardcore fans' outlook."

The Affliction executive also hinted at a still-to-come major marketing push that the organization hopes will bring in the casual audience as well.

"Right now, we haven't even broken water (on marketing) yet," Atencio said. "We're waiting until the push because we know a lot of people, especially the casual fan, they'll forget about it if we push too soon. ... We've sold about 8,000 tickets so far, and that's with minimal advertising."

Featuring three ex-UFC champions, both Emelianenko brothers, and the greatest assembled cast of recognizable names on a card outside the UFC, Atencio believes his card will stand up to any challenges between now and July 19.

"July 19 pay-per-view -- it's going to be the biggest MMA card in history," he said. "There's no denying that."

For the full "Affliction: Banned" fight card, check out the MMA Rumors section of MMAjunkie.com.
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