Which UFC title is most likley to switch hands first? - Page 4

neonatural45 · #31 (**permalink**) 05-27-2008, 01:11 AM

Why are some people saying Nog? He probably won't defend for 6 months plus due to TUF, and then his first defense is Mir! Even after that the UFC heavyweight division doesn't offer anyone that is a threat (2 of the best contenders have already lost to him). Dana probably regrets being a dick to Barnett and AA now......

Rampage, if Wandy or Shogun ever get title shots
Penn could give up the belt as someone said
GSP could lose to Penn if they fight soon
Anderson will get sub'd within his next 5 fights IMO

I don't see how people don't see Nog staying champ, AA is the only threat to him and isn't in the picture at the moment.

hunterkiller · #32 (**permalink**) 05-27-2008, 01:16 AM

I'm shocked at all the guys saying Rampage loses first. He came into the UFC and beat the most dominant LHW champ in UFC history, then beat Henderson who had just destroyed Wanderlei. I understand Wanderlei beat him twice in Japan but things are different for both guys now. It's true LHW is stacked right now but I think it's stacked with guys that he can beat.

I think it's got to be Penn but not losing it as a loss. I think he's just going to give his belt up and walk away from Lightweight and go back to Welterweight where he'll take GSP's belt.

If that doesn't happen though, and he stays at lightweight, no one at lightweight beats him for some time and no one beats GSP for a while. I would have to go with Noguiera in that situation. In Nogueira's fight with Herring, he was saved by a crappy referee who didn't know when to stop the fight allowing him plenty of time between rounds to recover. Then against Sylvia, he was getting pounded until he pulled that submission out. Don't get me wrong, I think Nogueira is legendary, but I think he would lose before Penn, GSP, Anderson Silva, or Rampage.

notrightn0w · #33 (**permalink**) 05-27-2008, 02:55 AM

The Way i see it

HW has a few top contenders, but even fewer champions.
LHW can have a new champ any given match-up. So as much as I love his personality, Rampage probably gets the hardest route.
MW is fucked, unless Hendo gets his shit together and realizes he's a wrestler.
WW, Anyone can beat anyone but GSP
LW, Anyone can beat anyone but BJ Penn

I could be wrong (especially about the latter two) but it's jsut an opinion. No one is unbeatable, but at the moment....

CJRockstar · #34 (**permalink**) 05-27-2008, 03:12 AM

the only way anyone is beating nog is by decision, after 5 rounds of nog bashing, bone crunching torture. I almost feel like he doesnt defend on purpose so you can knock him stupid numb. Then when he brain fires off a neutron or 2 that says submission attempt you get caught.

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Originally Posted by thecoylewis

I'm shocked at all the guys saying Rampage loses first. He came into the UFC and beat the most dominant LHW champ in UFC history, then beat Henderson who had just destroyed Wanderlei. I understand Wanderlei beat him twice in Japan but things are different for both guys now. It's true LHW is stacked right now but I think it's stacked with guys that he can beat.

I think it's got to be Penn but not losing it as a loss. I think he's just going to give his belt up and walk away from Lightweight and go back to Welterweight where he'll take GSP's belt.

If that doesn't happen though, and he stays at lightweight, no one at lightweight beats him for some time and no one beats GSP for a while. I would have to go with Noguiera in that situation. In Nogueira's fight with Herring, he was saved by a crappy referee who didn't know when to stop the fight allowing him plenty of time between rounds to recover. Then against Sylvia, he was getting pounded until he pulled that submission out. Don't get me wrong, I think Nogueira is legendary, but I think he would lose before Penn, GSP, Anderson Silva, or Rampage.

not to burst your bubble or anything, but Rampage has smashed Chucks face on more than one occasion. So it wasn't THAT surprising that he came in and got the title. I think it was more shocking that he came in and got a title shot that fast than it was him beating chuck the second time. Not to mention in Nog's fight with herring, Herring was the reason Herring lost the fight. When he kicked Nogs face into oblivion he stood there like a chode and didnt try to GnP at all.

bobcat · #35 (**permalink**) 05-27-2008, 03:22 AM

Rampage IMO, I think there are a number of guys at LHW that could take his title.

jmcpherson21 · #36 (**permalink**) 05-27-2008, 04:49 AM

1st to vote for Anderson...probably gotta fight Okami and Henderson again still this is year if he wants to get to 09 as Champ...i think hes due nobodys perfect forever everybody gets caught eventually...Tito got caught Chuck got caught Hughes too

RearNakedStroke · #37 (**permalink**) 05-27-2008, 06:39 AM

I wouldn't bet on it, but I could see Forrest beating Rampage. I really didn't think he stood a chance against Shogun, so I guess anything is possible.
That being said, the division is stacked. There are too many elite fighters in the division for the belt to stay with one person for too long.

Qball1974 · #38 (**permalink**) 05-27-2008, 07:10 AM

Rampage

mcptfc2007 · #39 (**permalink**) 05-27-2008, 09:11 AM

got 2 say rampage here, i think rampage is one of the best champs but will have the hardest match ups cause the division is so stacked, i think forrest rampage will be a close fight

hunterkiller · #40 (**permalink**) 05-27-2008, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by CJRockstar

Rampage has smashed Chucks face on more than one occasion. So it wasn't THAT surprising that he came in and got the title. I think it was more shocking that he came in and got a title shot that fast than it was him beating chuck the second time. Not to mention in Nog's fight with herring, Herring was the reason Herring lost the fight. When he kicked Nogs face into oblivion he stood there like a chode and didnt try to GnP at all.

I agree with those points. He smashed Chuck worse in Pride than he did last time. But I'm not surprised he got the title shot so fast. The way the UFC saw it, Chuck was their golden boy and he chose his opponents. (In all fairness, Chuck always chose the best.) He chose Rampage because he wanted to avenge his loss to him. So they sold that angle and Rampage got the shot. And at the time, Wanderlei hadn't came over yet, neither had Shogun and he had already beat Tito twice so Rampage was the logical candidate.

As for Nogueira, I completely agree with you that despite the ref not stopping it, Herring could have won with GNP. I do think though that Herring was more in shock that the fight hadn't been stopped yet and he felt like he had Nogueira hurt bad enough that if he got back to his feet, he could just KO him easily. Sadly the round ended and Nogueria had a full minute to recover and the rest is history. I do still feel though that the ref should have stopped it and had Nogueria had serious damage done, that ref should be held accountable. Shot after shot was landed and Nogueira wasn't defending himself. Needless to say, that same ref fell on his butt in the Tito fight Saturday night.