Hughes wants to prove his time hasn’t passed

[Dork8503]

Originally Posted by jrube

OMG would you PENN nut suckers please stop with the "until bj hurt his wittle wibs" BS... BJ tried like hell to put away Hughes, and Hughes was too strong for him in that fight, and HUGHES BEAT PENN PERIOD!

Would you Penn haters get off the shit that he wasn't hurt. He separated his ribs. Was it a freak accident, yes, is that a part of fighting, again yes. But you can't deny that Penn was schooling Hughes until that injury.

And i believe that fight would have ended very differently if Penn hadn't been injured during the fight.

As for the Thiago vs Hughes fight. I am a big fan of both, and would like to see Hughes win, but i don't think he can. Thiago is younger, more tools to win the fight with and imo hungrier.

[ArMnHC]

Originally Posted by Dork8503

Would you Penn haters get off the shit that he wasn't hurt. He separated his ribs. Was it a freak accident, yes, is that a part of fighting, again yes. But you can't deny that Penn was schooling Hughes until that injury.

And i believe that fight would have ended very differently if Penn hadn't been injured during the fight.

As for the Thiago vs Hughes fight. I am a big fan of both, and would like to see Hughes win, but i don't think he can. Thiago is younger, more tools to win the fight with and imo hungrier.

*i must spread more rep before i can give you rep Dork LOL*

but seriously yeah no Hughes fan wants to believe Hughes was getting his ass kicked by Penn before the injury.

and for jrube, yes im a proud Penn Nut Hugger because he is the baddest MOFO alive! nuff said

[YukonJordan]

Hughes is still a considerable force at 170 but the book may be out on him now. I could see Fitch or even Kos on his best day following the same gameplan GSP used to beat Hughes. Anybody else though is most likely in a world of hurt in a match with Hughes.

[GetKnockedOut]

hughes is actually my favorite fighter, and penn was obviously beating him, but regardless of what you THINK would of happened, what DID happen was hughes won, you can say its only because of penn's rib all you want but penn couldnt finish him before hurting his rib could he?

[atj-lucko]

Actually I really dislike Hughes from the first time I saw him, and the way he acted on tuf reiterated those feeling.

I hope Alves crushes him badly.

I also hate when people say that Hughes is the greatest WW of all time, B.S. GSP destroyed him twice, Dennis Hallman submitted him twice once in 17seconds the other in 20 seconds(and I have seen both fights not just looking up sherdog stats here).

I wanna see Hallman vs. GSP winner gets crowned the Greatest WW of this generation.

[mcptfc2007]

hughes if dep still top 5, gsp is going 2 start 2 do that 2 everyone, example serra who is still a top 5 fighter, i think hughes will beat alves and will also beat serra when they fight,

[Dork8503]

Originally Posted by atj-lucko

Actually I really dislike Hughes from the first time I saw him, and the way he acted on tuf reiterated those feeling.

I hope Alves crushes him badly.

I also hate when people say that Hughes is the greatest WW of all time, B.S. GSP destroyed him twice, Dennis Hallman submitted him twice once in 17seconds the other in 20 seconds(and I have seen both fights not just looking up sherdog stats here).

I wanna see Hallman vs. GSP winner gets crowned the Greatest WW of this generation.

Hughes is the greatest WW of all time. that is until GSP racks some wins together or someone else does it.

Hughes has beaten the best of the best. 2 time WW champ, one reign had 5 title defenses, something thats tied with Chuck and Tito.

Hes beaten

Doerksen
Gono
Newton
Trigg
Mach
Sherk
Penn
GSP
Royce

Hughes has beaten the who's who of mma in his time.

GSP has beaten Hughes and Penn and Trigg. But he still hasn't defended that title 5 times.

There is no denying Hughes is the greatest of all time, and imo GSP can have a better reign and a better legacy imo, but first he has to beat Hughes record.

If Hughes isn't the greatest, then who is. GSP or Penn would have to be your other options and seeing Penn doesn't have many wins at ww and GSP did lose to Hughes and Serra, and has never defended the belt. Kind of makes it hard for them to be a head of Hughes.

If Anderson keeps it up, he has a chance to go down as the greatest MW of all time, but because he has lost would that mean its bullshit.

Just because some one has lost, does not mean they can't be the greatest.

[atj-lucko]

Originally Posted by Dork8503

Hughes is the greatest WW of all time. that is until GSP racks some wins together or someone else does it.

Hughes has beaten the best of the best. 2 time WW champ, one reign had 5 title defenses, something thats tied with Chuck and Tito.

Hes beaten

Doerksen
Gono
Newton
Trigg
Mach
Sherk
Penn
GSP
Royce

Hughes has beaten the who's who of mma in his time.

GSP has beaten Hughes and Penn and Trigg. But he still hasn't defended that title 5 times.

There is no denying Hughes is the greatest of all time, and imo GSP can have a better reign and a better legacy imo, but first he has to beat Hughes record.

If Hughes isn't the greatest, then who is. GSP or Penn would have to be your other options and seeing Penn doesn't have many wins at ww and GSP did lose to Hughes and Serra, and has never defended the belt. Kind of makes it hard for them to be a head of Hughes.

If Anderson keeps it up, he has a chance to go down as the greatest MW of all time, but because he has lost would that mean its bullshit.

Just because some one has lost, does not mean they can't be the greatest.

I still disagree.
Jason Macdonald bet Doerksen twice.
Gono not a top ranked fighter ever.
Newton somewhat a b class fighter at one time.
Royce can't beat his meat at this point.
GSP beat both Sherk, Penn, Trigg and his loss to Hughes was fluke, mentally he was not focused and too young I discount that loss because of his last two dominating performances over Hughes.

Do you actually believe if GSP fought Hughes 5 more times that GSP wouldn't do the same thing to Hughes he did to him the last two times they fought?

Muhammad Ali is considered the greatest of all time cause he defeated everyone, even the guys he lost to. Now say that he fought Foreman 3 times and Foreman KO'ed him twice in the 2nd round and he could never defeated Fraizer, well how could could anyone consider him the greatest.

With Hughes he was submitted twice by Hallmean in a total of 37 seconds in two fights, and even now I pick Hallman in a fight against Hughes.

Hughes has always been a 2 dimensional fighter Great Wrestler, decent subs, good cardio, zero boxing and soon as a fighter that emerged that could stuff his takedowns and was an above average striker he didn't have an answer.With out his takedowns Hughes is like a turtle on his back.

[BigBanda]

Originally Posted by atj-lucko

Actually I really dislike Hughes from the first time I saw him, and the way he acted on tuf reiterated those feeling.

I hope Alves crushes him badly.

I also hate when people say that Hughes is the greatest WW of all time, B.S. GSP destroyed him twice, Dennis Hallman submitted him twice once in 17seconds the other in 20 seconds(and I have seen both fights not just looking up sherdog stats here).

I wanna see Hallman vs. GSP winner gets crowned the Greatest WW of this generation.

Well sorry but Hughes "IS" the greatest, most dominant WW of all time still. Sure GSP beat him but GSP needs to accomplish what Hughes has first before he can dethrone Hughes as the most dominant WW of all time. Hughes went on a 5 title defense streak before losing to Penn the first time. Then Hughes went on a 4 title defense streak after beating GSP(1st fight). He has a record of 42 wins and 6 losses. Love him or hate him, you have to give the man his dues.

[Masscore]

Couple of things -

1. Hughes is still a Top 5 WW and arugably number 2 right now at WW. Fitch may be on a great streak right now, but he has only beaten one or two top ten guys in his career. Hughes has made his career by beating Top Ten guys, so therefore IMO he is number 2 right behind GSP.

2. Hughes is not only the greatest WW of All-Time, but one of the best MMA fighters of all time. The guy gets no love because of his attitude, but its hard to deny the fact that he has accomplished more in his career then most other fighters. No one has had more title defenses and as dominate riegns as Hughes. Out of all his title defenses, he only went the distance once and finished off the other 6 oppenants. Out of those 6 he finished off he finished off 3 of them in the first round. He has actually finished Trigg (2x), Royce Gracie, GSP, Castillo and Riggs all in the first round.

3. He has beaten the last two guys to beat him. I know GSP might now have been all mentally there the first time, but ummmmm, mental strength is a huge part of the game so that win was not a fluke. Now when it comes to Penn, yes Penn got hurt and it was a wierd injury that occured because Hughes was hurting Penn and he needed to try something desperate to get out of the situation. Penn even said it himself that he was getting hurt by Hughes with the elbows and decided he needed to try something because if he stayed down there any longer, who knows what could have happened. Also, who says Penn would have won that fight if he wasn't injuried. You guys all assume way way too much. What if Hughes put it into the 4th round and Penn was gassed, who says the same thing couldn't have happened? Who says the same thing couldn't have happened in the 5th round if it got that far, or if Hughes came back and won the next 3 rounds and took home a decision. People just assume because Penn won the first two rounds, they he would keep on dominating Hughes if it wasn't for the injury, but in all honestly we all have no idea what would have happened. What did happen is Hughes won, so move on and deal with it.

4. Hughes is going to set Alves back a few pegs. Alves is making his career out of beating Karo it seems and now people just expect him to beat up on Hughes. Guys Hughes is way better then Karo and Alves is going to find that out the hardway. I taking Hughes in the first via Kimura.