*** Strikeforce: Shamrock vs. Le Discussion Thread *** Spoilers ***

[LebenTysonTank]

Originally Posted by harlemhustla145

Great fight. All my respect goes out to Frank and like I said before, his standup is great at this point in his career. Cung just thows some hard ass fucking kicks on top of his extremly unorthodox style. IMO It will be hard for anybody to withstand all that damage in the MW division with the exception of A Silva who I think is the only MW who can go toe to toe with Le if they can't take him down and keep him there.

Maybe Leben could take the punishment?

[jedilost1]

it was a good fight but does anyone else think frank was off his game a lil in this fight. I mean, Cung is def one of the best but i just saw this fight being more of skill versus skill than what it actually was. And Frank did keep from using his right hand in some of the rounds. All respect to Cung he definitely beat his ass.

[ILJO]

very awesome fight. frank always puts on a show win or lose. I dont know how so many of you dont like the guy.

anyways, I think something was wrong with his knee because he was doing pretty decent in the stand up, even rocking Le a couple times, but he was losing every round, I think, and he still never really attempted a good takedown.

I know he was saying he was going to stand with Le but if youre losing every round, by round three you should consider a change

[SonyPenguin]

I wanna know what the hell was up with the medial attention Frank got? If his arm was broken, they did a piss poor job of stabilizing it. Where in the hell do they come off trying to using a towel as a sling? That's just unprofessional & unacceptable.

[TriangleChoke]

Frank will have to get surgery on his knee before he can be dominant again imo. I'm not saying that him having a decent shot would have made him able to take Cung down, but I bet if his knee was 100% he would have attempted more takedowns

[Harlem]

Originally Posted by Alyosha

Great fight... I still can't believe Frank didn't go for more takedowns, was it him being stubborn or just arrogant?

Taking Cung down is no easy task my friend. The one time Frank wrapped Cung up from his back, Frank almost got thrown on his head., he let go mad quick.

The think is, Cung has great takedown D, good wrestler, and great San Shou which specifically teaches takedown D and rediculous slams and throws. I'm pretty sure Frank wished he could have had the opportunity to take Cung down.

[LebenTysonTank]

Originally Posted by TriangleChoke

Frank will have to get surgery on his knee before he can be dominant again imo. I'm not saying that him having a decent shot would have made him able to take Cung down, but I bet if his knee was 100% he would have attempted more takedowns

I agree...you think he'll get surgery and fight Ken while it heals lol?

[mauladala]

Can we not all admit that one of two things happened with Frank:

1)He got out-fought and the better wrestler psyched him out from trying to take him down ?

AND/OR

2)He employed a shit gameplan and payed dearly for it?

[Harlem]

Originally Posted by mauladala

Can we not all admit that one of two things happened with Frank:

1)He got out-fought and the better wrestler psyched him out from trying to take him down ?

AND/OR

2)He employed a shit gameplan and payed dearly for it?

Frank's not stupid, definitely 1.

[Ubermensch]

I think this is just the thing Frank needs to stop being so arrogant as he has been as of late. He did not take Cung seriously in the first two rounds you can see that because he had his hands down the entire time, he did not shoot or do a leg drag. Believe it or not I am glad he lost and I think it is Ironic that he had to forfeit like he did. Hope he fixes himself up and gets back to being serious about fighting unlike that video of his training routine for this fight showed.

Props to Cung great fight. I want to see them fight again at the end of the year or next. Also think Cung and Lawyer should be the next fight that will legitimize Cung to TUF Fanboys.