there were definately some pay offs in pride. i ant name any off the top of my head but ive seen some strange fights in pride where i was like wtf.
It's just crappy judging. It happens in the US also but not as bad as it did in Japan.
Wanderlei losing a decision to Mark Hunt after dominating the takedowns while the strikes were very even.
Nog over Ricco.
Yoshida vs Royce? Saku vs Royce? The "tap" in those fights are still debatable, tha's why Gi's shouldn't be allowed in MMA.
Regarding the "short notice" fights PRIDE was known for, they would announce opponents on short notice. If you were entering a tourney you knew when it was, if you were fighting on a card, you maybe told on short notice. But ultimately, if you're a professional who's job is fighting and you make a living fighting, it's up to that individual to remain in fight shape day in and day out.
The US is much different in that you are told who your opponent is 6 months in advance.
With the US way of doing it you have 6 months to train in your weak areas based on how the fighter stylistically matches up with you. On short notice you don't have that so you had better be a complete fighter or get lucky and get an opponent you mathup with well.
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Personally, I think Rampage just made an excuse because he was expected to get Eastman out of there quicker, but Eastman is accually a pretty good striker.
Yes, but it looks really bad to most casual fans, and to his record. Especially when most people were expecting him to beat Hendo and Chuck.
I agree with everything else you said, but stylistically wise, I don't think Wand would stand a chance now, but that's JMO.
I will ignore most of your ignorant bullshit, but to say a damn near 15 min. beatdown is worse than a 2 min. 1st round destruction is just retarded. Maybe as far as overall damage is concerned, but a first round KO always looks better on paper and means the winner was better prepared.
Flash knock down? lol, dude is seems to me everyone is laughing at you. When you have to get woke up with a punch, how the hell is it a flash KD Mr. Hugger?
BTW: Most people understand that Rampage has improved drastically, so what the fuck are you talking about?
Dipset, how is it that you think everyone is laughing at me?? Because I actually am informed as to what I'm talking about?? I mean, you already proved you didn't follow Rampage in PRIDE, claiming Jackson said himself both fights were on short notice. So clearly you weren't watching PRIDE at the time. Right?? Right. Stop pretending. You say I'm writing ignorant bullshit. Look at the reps I've got from this thread. Stylistically you don't think Wand would stand a chance now? Once again, just STOP TALKING. You're embarassing yourself and Rampage fans. It was a flash knock down. He wasn't out, until Rampage finished him off on the ground. I think Rampage would beat Chuck 99 times out of 100 (maybe 100 actually), so I'm not diminishing what he did, but dropping him and taking him down repeatedly, as well as beating on his kidneys with elbows and fists was far worse damage and a much worse beatdown. Can you comprehend that? Probably not. The best is "a 15 min beatdown is worse then a 2min beat down?? Maybe in OVERALL DAMAGE, but not on paper" LOL where did they find you?? How did you get so many posts?? Are they all like this?? You belong on sherdog with your fight analysis.
By the way, you called me Mr. Hugger. Of who?? Fedor?? Akiyama?? Hunt?? Gomi?? Those are my favorite fighters. Chuck?? LOL I can't stand Chuck, and bet 3 g's on Rampage at 3-1 odds in that fight. By the way, when Chuck was woke up with the punch, he was put out by a ground punch first. Then hit with another punch on the ground and woke back up. He wasn't out from the punch standing. Do you get that?? Probably not. I'll e-mail you a hooked on phonics link that I google. Rampage has not improved "drastically", he has sharpened and refined his technique and is in better shape. He still punches the same though and uses the same defense. Watch his fight vs Hendo. He was sharper against Randleman then he was against Hendo. I've watched his career since the beginning, I train in muay thai and boxing, so I know what I'm talking about. You clearly do not. Stick to politics Obama, I'm sick of handing you your ass. It's getting boring.
Oh yeah, LOL @ Eastman being a good striker. He was iced by Lutter. You really know NOTHING about mma. It's pathetic.
N yeah rampage is chumpity chump then since he got worked twice and the second one is one of the best MMA highlights ever, especially since it's a world class athlete getting KOed like that.
Rampage is bitter, I prolly would be too if I got fucked up like that after talking so much shit.
You took the words right out of my mouth. Rampage is bitter as a mofo, he is part of one of the most brutal highlight reel KO's ever. I believe he's trying to build the hype to get another shot at Wanderlei. If he does, and wins, he's still only won 1 out of 3, but I still think Wanderlei would put a world class beatdown on him again.
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My opinion is Arlovski is the best HW the world,but Randy stands a chance in a fight with Fedor to,I don't give a fuck what anybody says.
You took the words right out of my mouth. Rampage is bitter as a mofo, he is part of one of the most brutal highlight reel KO's ever. I believe he's trying to build the hype to get another shot at Wanderlei. If he does, and wins, he's still only won 1 out of 3, but I still think Wanderlei would put a world class beatdown on him again.
Refreshing, somebody who actually knows what they are talking about. Didn't you hear A-Mafia from Harlem's comments?? 140th and Lennox?? Apparently, stylistically, Silva doesn't have a chance. I mean, it's not like muay thai guys have brutalized Rampage before (name one who hasn't)
Refreshing, somebody who actually knows what they are talking about. Didn't you hear A-Mafia from Harlem's comments?? 140th and Lennox?? Apparently, stylistically, Silva doesn't have a chance. I mean, it's not like muay thai guys have brutalized Rampage before (name one who hasn't)
Harlem has a different opinion and I respect that even though I disagree with him. I know you're new here and if you start bashing people just because they don't agree with you, you won't be here long. You seem like a kool cat and enjoy debating MMA, this is the best place for that, so this is just a word of advice, tone it down a little on the personal attacks and you'll fit right in.
I agree because I believe that Rampage has just sharpened skills he already had and is in better physical condition. His boxing is excellent but most boxers will get destroyed by a world class Muay Thai fighter, and that's what I think happens to him if he fights Wanderlei again unless he does the LnP/GnP route, which is very possible now that they are in the cage.
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My opinion is Arlovski is the best HW the world,but Randy stands a chance in a fight with Fedor to,I don't give a fuck what anybody says.
Oh yeah, LOL @ Eastman being a good striker. He was iced by Lutter. You really know NOTHING about mma. It's pathetic. And that wasn't Ramma's quote I quoted above, it was the Harlem Byrd Gang.
WTH Does that fight have to do with Eastmans striking AT ALL?
Harlem, who I thouroughly disagree with everything he has said in this thread, said that Eastman is a good striker.. which is obvious! he is a good striker! he did not say that Eastman had a good chin.. which again is obvious.. Eastman is a very good striker, his pedigree is an example of that.. and if you study striking you can see that he is a good striker when he fights.. his training sucks, he gets hit too many times on the chin in training, and has a horrible chin because of it.. and I doubt he was born with an iron chin to begin with.
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Personally, I think Rampage just made an excuse because he was expected to get Eastman out of there quicker, but Eastman is accually a pretty good striker.
Yes, but it looks really bad to most casual fans, and to his record. Especially when most people were expecting him to beat Hendo and Chuck.
I agree with everything else you said, but stylistically wise, I don't think Wand would stand a chance now, but that's JMO.
It is possible that Rampage said that for that reason, but I don't see why he would lie about it. It isn't like Rampage had that bad of a showing.. he KOed the guy after all.
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LOL. what? Rampage entered the Total Elimination tournament to specifically fight Wanderlei...
Exactly.. nothing short notice about that fight.
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I know you're new here and if you start bashing people just because they don't agree with you, you won't be here long. You seem like a kool cat and enjoy debating MMA, this is the best place for that, so this is just a word of advice, tone it down a little on the personal attacks and you'll fit right in.
Also to mmhmm... Welcome to the boards, but please stop double posting. I have been merging your stuff like crazy. If you have more to say, use the edit button, or wait till someone else posts, and then follow up
P.S. I fixed your post where you accidentally quoted me instead of harlem.
Oh, and Marvin Eastman is a good striker. Is he one of the best strikers in MMA? Absolutely not. I mean, I don't think (and he didn't, think he has one fight in K1 which is a loss to Ray Sefo) he could have hung in the big leagues of kickboxing and such, but Eastman is a good striker.
People shouldn't take Rampage so serious, if there's a mic around he's "on" he bullshits, he lies, he tell the truth, he makes jokes.
It's like watching a Robin Williams interview and trying to dissect it and take it as fact.
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