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you know what i kinda dont liek about this sport.. that people pretty much jump on the band wagon and after a fighter loses 1x or 2x's (especially when they are older) they always ask "whats next" ? You gotta imagine the training these guys put in... the dieting, the sacrifices.... we personally have no clue what they are going through in their personal life.

so he's lost 2 fights? i wouldn't call him a bust in the ufc bust..
I wouldn't call him a bust either, because he was never that good in the first place. Dude has been knocked the fuck out four times now.
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I wouldn't call him a bust either, because he was never that good in the first place. Dude has been knocked the fuck out four times now.
I love that he essentially watches the fist approach but can't do anything about it. Impending Doom.

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Does he still train with Tito, or who is his camp. I think he might need a change in camp.
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I see some are jumping off the bandwagon really fast.

I remember not to long ago some of you were saying Kendall was really good and would give Anderson trouble.

Now you say he is a bum blah blah.

You can go back an check my posts i have always said Grove sucked.

I was shocked when he beat Alan, Alan is a much better fighter then Grove and much better then he showed in that fight.

Kendall needs to go to WEC or Elite or something because there is no room for him.

All he is going to do is take up room on a ppv when other much deserving fights could be on there.

As for now i would love to see Grove vs Leben.

It would end fast an nasty and give Leben another win and more confidence.

When Grove gets knocked out he gets knocked the fuck out. 4 of his losses have come from bad knock outs.
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I think they should drop Grove down to the WEC. It'd be best for him and good exposure for the promotion. He's just downright embarrassing to watch as a TUF winner.
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I think they should drop Grove down to the WEC. It'd be best for him and good exposure for the promotion. He's just downright embarrassing to watch as a TUF winner.
That's a good idea. Of course he will still get owned in the WEC too...
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you know what i kinda dont liek about this sport.. that people pretty much jump on the band wagon and after a fighter loses 1x or 2x's (especially when they are older) they always ask "whats next" ? You gotta imagine the training these guys put in... the dieting, the sacrifices.... we personally have no clue what they are going through in their personal life.

so he's lost 2 fights? i wouldn't call him a bust in the ufc bust..
Its not just those 2 losses. Look at all his losses. Ramirez, Riggs, Cote, Rivera. All scary KO losses that point to a glass chin, and maybe a fighter that should maybe start looking at other professions.

Not trying to be cruel, but if the trend continues, he needs to looks at his own health and decide if its worth it. He's had 12 or 13 fights and suffered viscious KO's in 4 of those contests.
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Its not just those 2 losses. Look at all his losses. Ramirez, Riggs, Cote, Rivera. All scary KO losses that point to a glass chin, and maybe a fighter that should maybe start looking at other professions.

Not trying to be cruel, but if the trend continues, he needs to looks at his own health and decide if its worth it. He's had 12 or 13 fights and suffered viscious KO's in 4 of those contests.
Well another profession may be a lil too extreme. He just is not going to be able to get far in the UFC judging off recent performances. He can do alright elsewhere and besides he is only like 25 years old. He has plenty of time for improvement.
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Well another profession may be a lil too extreme. He just is not going to be able to get far in the UFC judging off recent performances. He can do alright elsewhere and besides he is only like 25 years old. He has plenty of time for improvement.
But how do you solve the getting hit and knocked out part? He can work on his standup, but even the best still get tagged. I know he's young, but he can't just get a better chin.

If he gets a few more bad KO losses, thats when things start to get scary. Its not exactly healthy to get KO'ed in the manner he seems to have penchant for.
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I chose Jorge by TKO for this fight actually. I figured R2 but the conclusion I planned on.

I don't think Grove is a washout yet but he needs a camp that will teach him aggression and Muay Tai. Chute Box comes to mind as a camp that would turn his body into a weapon. I also think hooking up with Anderson Silva as a training partner would do him a world of good.
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