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09-10-2006, 10:39 PM
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Chuck aint gonna fight Cro-cop
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09-10-2006, 11:08 PM
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Chuck aint gonna fight Cro-cop
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would be awesome if he did!
im starting to think Chuck would crush Wandy...
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would be awesome if he did!
im starting to think Chuck would crush Wandy...
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Why because CroCop dominated Wand tonight at the OWGP?
Please, to think Chuck would crush Wand is naive. Wand would be able to deal with Chuck's high, and even body kicks a lot better than someone like CroCop's.
They both fight very similar, Wand and Chuck; throwing those looping haymakers that seem wild. I think Wand has more accuracy, and a better chin to be honest.
It's a 50/50 shot for either guy if it stays standing.
The ground game is a whole different story and Wand's skills are superior to Chuck's (who's no slouch himself)
I think the UFC's limitations of what fighters can and can't do would play into Chuck's favour, as Wand has developed a style under different rules.
Anyways, Chuck "crushing" Wand? Not likely.
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09-11-2006, 08:56 AM
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Wand looked horrible against cro cop. I dont understand what makes you guys think it would be any different with Chuck. Wand was extremely aggressive and attempted to just overwhelm CroCop and he basically got picked apart. I think this would play right into Chucks game. If wand fought Chuck the way he fought CroCop i see a 1st or 2nd round KO for Liddell.
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09-11-2006, 09:34 AM
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Wand looked horrible against cro cop. I dont understand what makes you guys think it would be any different with Chuck. Wand was extremely aggressive and attempted to just overwhelm CroCop and he basically got picked apart. I think this would play right into Chucks game. If wand fought Chuck the way he fought CroCop i see a 1st or 2nd round KO for Liddell.
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Maybe because Cro-cop is a HW, much better kickboxer then Chuck, much stronger kick then Chucks fist, and did I mention that hes a much better fighter too?
jeez.
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09-11-2006, 09:42 AM
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Wand looked horrible against cro cop. I dont understand what makes you guys think it would be any different with Chuck. Wand was extremely aggressive and attempted to just overwhelm CroCop and he basically got picked apart. I think this would play right into Chucks game. If wand fought Chuck the way he fought CroCop i see a 1st or 2nd round KO for Liddell.
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Do you even bother to to account the fact that Cro Cop was a naturally bigger fighter with a longer reach? And the best striker in MMA period. Ya'll seem to forget styles, size, and skills make fights. Chuck got his ass handed to him by Rampage so what makes you think Chuck would run threw Wand? Wand is better on the ground and just as good a striker as Chuck (if not better). You can't just judge Wand like that from just one fight, Cro Cop is on a whle other level. He went the distance with Fedor for god sake and has whopped and avenged every fighter he's fought unless they were on his level or bigger than him as a striker ALA Mark Hunt, or when he first came into MMA and didn't know anything and got subed ALA Big Nog.
Wand still crushes Chuck!! 
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09-11-2006, 10:08 AM
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Do you even bother to to account the fact that Cro Cop was a naturally bigger fighter with a longer reach? And the best striker in MMA period. Ya'll seem to forget styles, size, and skills make fights. Chuck got his ass handed to him by Rampage so what makes you think Chuck would run threw Wand? Wand is better on the ground and just as good a striker as Chuck (if not better). You can't just judge Wand like that from just one fight, Cro Cop is on a whle other level. He went the distance with Fedor for god sake and has whopped and avenged every fighter he's fought unless they were on his level or bigger than him as a striker ALA Mark Hunt, or when he first came into MMA and didn't know anything and got subed ALA Big Nog.
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what a stupid post ... you tell me that i just cant judge wand like that from one fight, but you just got finished making a statement judging Chuck because of his loss to Rampage. And as far as wand avenging his losses .... havent you noticed that Chuck has done the same. I mean, I understand your arguments if you say that the UFC is feeding chuck wrestlers and not strikers ... but the fact is that he is knocking these guys out. So whether they are wrestlers or not, Chuck hits hard enough to knock them out. What makes you think he couldnt do the same to these other guys.
And for everyone coming up with excuses for wand because he is a naturally smaller fighter ... well there were no weight limits and he came in 4lbs heavier than CroCop.
CroCop didnt so much dismantle Wand as much as Wand beat himself. I think it could have been a much closer fight had he fought a smarter fight.
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09-11-2006, 10:15 AM
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Do u realise how good of a kickboxer Cro-cop is?
he has wins over Bob Sapp, Remy Bonjasky, Jerome Le Banner, Sam Greco, Mark Hunt
the only thing Wandy could of done was try and strike with him, Chuck hits very hard and can knock anyone out but it wont be easy against Wandy nor will he run through Wandy, even if he was 4 lbs lighter then Cro-cop he isnt a natural HW! I mean atleast hes makin a statement about Chuck losing to a guy in his own weight division, your making one about a guy whos naturally 30 LBs bigger then Wandy and has fought at that weight most of his career. How can you say that Chuck will run thru Wandy just cuz Cro-cop knocked him out? be honest do you really think Chuck hits as hard as Cro-cop can kick?
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09-11-2006, 10:22 AM
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what a stupid post ... you tell me that i just cant judge wand like that from one fight, but you just got finished making a statement judging Chuck because of his loss to Rampage. And as far as wand avenging his losses .... havent you noticed that Chuck has done the same. I mean, I understand your arguments if you say that the UFC is feeding chuck wrestlers and not strikers ... but the fact is that he is knocking these guys out. So whether they are wrestlers or not, Chuck hits hard enough to knock them out. What makes you think he couldnt do the same to these other guys.
And for everyone coming up with excuses for wand because he is a naturally smaller fighter ... well there were no weight limits and he came in 4lbs heavier than CroCop.
CroCop didnt so much dismantle Wand as much as Wand beat himself. I think it could have been a much closer fight had he fought a smarter fight.
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James Toney is bigger than alot of HWs, do you think he is just as effective as when he was a middleweight, LWH or Cruiser? You have no clue about match making.
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