GSP: "What those reporters said was not even true."

[Gmunit]

Originally Posted by sandywh

I beleive 100% that GSP would say something to that affect. I also beleive that as soon as its reported that he'd backpedal. Look at the guys track record, and not just the Serra stuff. He's done it way too many times. I'm all for being bold and brash, but if you're going to say it, you need to stick with it. Even 79 showed a good example of it. They showed the post fight when Serra beat him and he said "No excuses" then in the 79 post fight he continued to bring up how he had issues "mentally and physically in the fight with Serra".

i think there's a big difference between excuses and reasons, we've discussed this a million times already, a fighter must determine what contributed to a loss and try and correct it, you're just nit-picking over terminolgy

Originally Posted by sandywh

I know two things about GSP that he cannot argue or backpedal from:
1) He ain't the champ until he beats Serra
2) He wants no part of Jake Shields

how can you mention post fight comments at 79 and still write this as something GSP won't admit to ??

[ArMnHC]

so i dont wanna have to FF through the show, and no one has really stated it in here.......so were the reports of Rashad and the others not being able to take GSP down not true? or were they not really able to take him down in training? or is that not even what this is about???

and i agree with Ninja, Shields wants no part in GSP. i cant stand that people in here think Shields is some god in MMA, but GSP would crush him. if Shields really wants to start fighting the best, he needs to get the F*ck out of Elite XC, WORD!

[b1uef1ow]

Originally Posted by virtualpurple

Essentially a reporter had stated something to the effect of St. Pierre stating at some point that Rashad couldn't take him down. St. Pierre denied saying that and wanted to make sure people knew that he does not put down any of the people that he trains with and that he values them alot.

He basically said that some reporter put words in his mouth and reported that he was putting other fighters down, and he wanted the story straight.

You got it a bit mixed up there, on mmaweekly.com there was a article on GSP's training camp that said none of them code take him down including Rashad. GSP wanted to straighten out the situation by stating that simply was not true and that the people trying to take him down that day may have just been having an bad training day. GSP went on to stat in the interview that He has been taking down on bad days himself. Basically he didn't want it to seem like his training partners looked bad because they couldn't take him down.

[YukonJordan]

Originally Posted by sandywh

I beleive 100% that GSP would say something to that affect. I also beleive that as soon as its reported that he'd backpedal. Look at the guys track record, and not just the Serra stuff. He's done it way too many times. I'm all for being bold and brash, but if you're going to say it, you need to stick with it. Even 79 showed a good example of it. They showed the post fight when Serra beat him and he said "No excuses" then in the 79 post fight he continued to bring up how he had issues "mentally and physically in the fight with Serra".

I know two things about GSP that he cannot argue or backpedal from:
1) He ain't the champ until he beats Serra
2) He wants no part of Jake Shields

Instead of saying GSP is a backpedalling maybe you should just give him credit for letting Serra have his moment. Nobody wants be an asshole in front of the live audience. If he was lying about those issues (which he wasn't) then yeah I say roast him, instead we should be celebrating that we have an interim champion who's willing to be honest yet still give his oppenents their moment in the sun.

1) GSP said this himself, why would he backpedal from it?
2) Maybe thats because he wants to fight the best of the best, not someone who was never even had a fight in the UFC.

[Afro]

Originally Posted by ninjastix

Considering he basically threw down the interim title I don't think you have to worry about the first...

And considering Shields is NO WHERE NEAR GSP in terms of skill or ability, I don't think Jake has to worry about the beating he'd receive...

Shields is no where near GSP in terms of skill? lol that is real funny, Shields is a much better grappler then GSP is.. GSP has the edge in striking and in wrestling.. but Shields is a damn good wrestler.. and a much much better BJJ prac.

[lilp86]

Originally Posted by Afro

Shields is no where near GSP in terms of skill? lol that is real funny, Shields is a much better grappler then GSP is.. GSP has the edge in striking and in wrestling.. but Shields is a damn good wrestler.. and a much much better BJJ prac.

Bottom line is Sheilds had his shot to come fight with the big boys and he resigned to EXC if he really wanted to justify himself as top 3 in the world he should have went to the UFC like he said he was going to. I think sheilds is a great fighter but I also think he is highly overrated on this fourm and would get owned By GSP or Fitch if they fought

[Afro]

Originally Posted by lilp86

Bottom line is Sheilds had his shot to come fight with the big boys and he resigned to EXC if he really wanted to justify himself as top 3 in the world he should have went to the UFC like he said he was going to. I think sheilds is a great fighter but I also think he is highly overrated on this fourm and would get owned By GSP or Fitch if they fought

What does this have to do with anything? So Shields isnt a great BJJ prac cuz he didnt sign with the UFC? he isnt a great fighter because he fights with EXC? makes no sense.

and ill wait to see what Fitch does in a rematch with Shields.. hell even if they fought outside of MMA.. he got Guillotined, dont see how that would change in MMA.

[lilp86]

Originally Posted by Afro

What does this have to do with anything? So Shields isnt a great BJJ prac cuz he didnt sign with the UFC? he isnt a great fighter because he fights with EXC? makes no sense.

and ill wait to see what Fitch does in a rematch with Shields.. hell even if they fought outside of MMA.. he got Guillotined, dont see how that would change in MMA.

I didnt say he wasnt a great bjj guy or a great fighter i just said I think hes overrated by alot of people on this forum thats it. like I said he wont be able to justify himself as one of the top 3 in the world b/c hes not in the UFC because EXC does not have the talent at WW that the UFC does. Just like Fedor I think if he wants to shut all his critics up he should have signed with the UFC instead he will be fighting mid tier fighters for the next couple of years and the debate will be ongoing

[Afro]

Originally Posted by lilp86

I didnt say he wasnt a great bjj guy or a great fighter i just said I think hes overrated by alot of people on this forum thats it. like I said he wont be able to justify himself as one of the top 3 in the world b/c hes not in the UFC because EXC does not have the talent at WW that the UFC does. Just like Fedor I think if he wants to shut all his critics up he should have signed with the UFC instead he will be fighting mid tier fighters for the next couple of years and the debate will be ongoing

So let me get this straight, his ranking status is based off of the organization he is in.. not the fighters he has fought.. cuz Shields has fought Kikuchi, Sakurai, Condit, Pyle, Okami, Charuto.. without being in the UFC.. ya he isnt Top 3.. ya he hasnt fought Top 5 talented.. but he has fought Top 10 talent, and a lot of good fighters.. and I am not comprehending how who he has fought is irrelevant to him being "no where near" GSPs level.. I always was under the impression that the skills, and talents of a fighter matters in a fight more-so then who the guy has fought.. who you have fought doesnt mean jack shit.

You will never hear Matt Serra say he knocked GSP out because he fought BJ Penn.

[mcdev88]

id take fitch or gsp over jake.