so why dont I like Tito Ortiz? - Page 6

Afro · #51 (**permalink**) 09-08-2006, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by LILMAC

Yeah, I saw him slam Fedor and he is a strong guy, he just isn't that much over .500. I would think he would have a better record if he was so good.

if he fought all the ppl Tito fought he would probably have the same record as Tito bro.. I look at Randlemans record and say ehhh too but then I realised that hes only lost to guys that are better then him so he is right where he should be as a fighter, he does have a few loses to chumps but we can turn the other cheek to those it happens to a lot of fighters in MMA

Randleman you cant base off of his record, but his talent as a fighter.. hes one of those guys that can win against anyone cuz hes talented enough to do so.. whether he does it or not is another question.. he shoulda beat Fedor if you ask me the gods were with Fedor that night cuz theres no reason that Fedor shoulda been out!

Mac · #52 (**permalink**) 09-08-2006, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Afro Samurai

if he fought all the ppl Tito fought he would probably have the same record as Tito bro.. I look at Randlemans record and say ehhh too but then I realised that hes only lost to guys that are better then him so he is right where he should be as a fighter, he does have a few loses to chumps but we can turn the other cheek to those it happens to a lot of fighters in MMA

Randleman you cant base off of his record, but his talent as a fighter.. hes one of those guys that can win against anyone cuz hes talented enough to do so.. whether he does it or not is another question.. he shoulda beat Fedor if you ask me the gods were with Fedor that night cuz theres no reason that Fedor shoulda been out!

I guess we will have to dissagree on this one, but it's cool, I enjoyed the debate. I'm getting off work now so I'm out. Catch ya on the flip-flop.

Harlem · #53 (**permalink**) 09-08-2006, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Afro Samurai

if he fought all the ppl Tito fought he would probably have the same record as Tito bro.. I look at Randlemans record and say ehhh too but then I realised that hes only lost to guys that are better then him so he is right where he should be as a fighter, he does have a few loses to chumps but we can turn the other cheek to those it happens to a lot of fighters in MMA

Randleman you cant base off of his record, but his talent as a fighter.. hes one of those guys that can win against anyone cuz hes talented enough to do so.. whether he does it or not is another question.. he shoulda beat Fedor if you ask me the gods were with Fedor that night cuz theres no reason that Fedor shoulda been out!

That's kind of contradictory my dude. Your right as far as "he lost to people better than him" but he just isn't that good. MMA has evolved since he was the champion and has suppased him. I think his record says it all, sure he has a punchers chance of winning a fight and he's an expert at GNP but thats it. He's just an exciting fighter and a good highlight reel for better fighters.

Afro · #54 (**permalink**) 09-08-2006, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by harlemhustla145

That's kind of contradictory my dude. Your right as far as "he lost to people better than him" but he just isn't that good. MMA has evolved since he was the champion and has suppased him. I think his record says it all, sure he has a punchers chance of winning a fight and he's an expert at GNP but thats it. He's just an exciting fighter and a good highlight reel for better fighters.

he isnt a great fighter, and his record does show that hes very hot and cold but hes beaten the guys hes suppose to beat, and lost to the guys hes suppose to lose to.. hes where he is suppose to be as a fighter.. right in the middle, just a solid fighter that has the ability to beat whoever.. just doesnt. HE isnt a bad fighter at all, very talented and dangerous.. he isnt great either and is definently not elite.. but hes good just like Tito is good.

Minotauro · #55 (**permalink**) 09-08-2006, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Mastiff_owner

TITO V BABALU Dana needs to make it happen. sooner rather than later. I would love to see Renato destroy Tito. I think it would be a great fight because both want to be on the ground and I think I will take babalu's JJ over tito's GnP.

My thought's exactly.

liddell316 · #56 (**permalink**) 09-09-2006, 12:02 AM

Tito hasn't been tested since what seems like 100 fights with Shamrock, it'd be interesting to see Babalu/Tito. I'm sure it'll happen next year.

Harlem · #57 (**permalink**) 09-09-2006, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Afro Samurai

he isnt a great fighter, and his record does show that hes very hot and cold but hes beaten the guys hes suppose to beat, and lost to the guys hes suppose to lose to.. hes where he is suppose to be as a fighter.. right in the middle, just a solid fighter that has the ability to beat whoever.. just doesnt. HE isnt a bad fighter at all, very talented and dangerous.. he isnt great either and is definently not elite.. but hes good just like Tito is good.

Agreed, even though I think he would beat tito's ass. His wrestling is just as good and I think he would probably knock tito out. Tito has no power and I can't see him keeping Kev down. Kevs a world class wrestler who has already fought the best fighters in the world and luckily beat 1.

I would love to see that fight.

matto · #58 (**permalink**) 09-09-2006, 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by killerinstinct

How the hell can Tito even mention himself in the same sentence as Couture and Liddell?Both dominated him.

Babalu is a very good fighter who deserves respect.Tito is a bitch.

bunch of bs, that is the thing that pisses me off the most about tito, he always acts like he is the best and better then everybody when he is not, chuck should be the one who is cocky but isnt like tito is, he got ko'ed by chuck and wont be able to take him down and will be a repeat of the first fight, his fight with couture was a joke, not to mention that he cried like a little bitch afterwords.and bablu has had a way more successful carrerr then tito has, tito is just more popular. tito isnt on the level with randy and chuck but is just as popular as them. when he loses to chuck again i want to hear what he will say this time. and i hope he leaves the ufc and goes to pride and re-fights wand, who he claimed to chased out of the ufc. and gets ktfo.

matto · #59 (**permalink**) 09-09-2006, 02:45 AM

randallman would smoke tito, he is a guy that could pose a threat to anybody including the top guys, but will not win most of the time but will be a serous threat but tito isnt. his slam on fedor was huge and if fedor hadent moved his head foward, he probably would be crippled or dead.

matto · #60 (**permalink**) 09-09-2006, 02:47 AM

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Originally Posted by harlemhustla145

Agreed, even though I think he would beat tito's ass. His wrestling is just as good and I think he would probably knock tito out. Tito has no power and I can't see him keeping Kev down. Kevs a world class wrestler who has already fought the best fighters in the world and luckily beat 1.

I would love to see that fight.

that would be a sweet fight, randallman would tear up tito. both excellent wrestlers but randallman is stronger. and the standup tito would look like a joke.