so why dont I like Tito Ortiz?

[killerinstinct]

Originally Posted by LILMAC

Yeah, Cro Cop has beaten Barnett, Aleksander, Randleman and I guess you can say Coleman. (who I consider an overweight Ken Shamrock) Tito beat Belfort, Wandy, Tanner and Shamrock.

Belfort-close fight that Vitor was winning dare say dominating untill he gassed.

Wanderlei-That happened forever ago.

Tanner-a MW fighter.

Ken Shamrock-an old man.

Crocop has beat much better competition.

[Mac]

Originally Posted by killerinstinct

Belfort-close fight that Vitor was winning dare say dominating untill he gassed.

Wanderlei-That happened forever ago.

Tanner-a MW fighter.

Ken Shamrock-an old man.

Crocop has beat much better competition.

I don't know, I'll give you Barnett and Aleksander, but I'm in no way impressed with Randleman or Coleman. ANd to me Wandy and Belfort are as good of wins as Barnett or Aleksander.

[Afro]

I think Randleman would beat Tito to be honest, Coleman definently would

the Wandy Tito fought is not as good a win as Barnett or Aleksander... if Tito beat Wandy now (by some ungodly miracle) then hell yah.

[Mac]

Originally Posted by Afro Samurai

I think Randleman would beat Tito to be honest, Coleman definently would

the Wandy Tito fought is not as good a win as Barnett or Aleksander... if Tito beat Wandy now (by some ungodly miracle) then hell yah.

Coleman and Randleman are hws. Tito is lhw and I think if they fought in UFC and were tested first he would beat both of those guys.

[Afro]

Originally Posted by LILMAC

Coleman and Randleman are hws. Tito is lhw and I think if they fought in UFC and were tested first he would beat both of those guys.

both coleman and randleman have fought at LHW before and could easily do it again

even in the UFC Randleman was good so roids doesnt play a factor, I think his wrestling is better.. hes definently in better physical shape, and more athletic that plays a big part.. and ill take his stand-up over Titos.

[Mac]

Originally Posted by Afro Samurai

both coleman and randleman have fought at LHW before and could easily do it again

even in the UFC Randleman was good so roids doesnt play a factor, I think his wrestling is better.. hes definently in better physical shape, and more athletic that plays a big part.. and ill take his stand-up over Titos.

To me Randleman hasn't been good in a while, he hasn't been in the UFC in over 4 years. I'd take Tito in that fight. (with madatory steroid testing)

[Afro]

Originally Posted by LILMAC

To me Randleman hasn't been good in a while, he hasn't been in the UFC in over 4 years. I'd take Tito in that fight. (with madatory steroid testing)

I dunno, did u see Randleman slam Fedor?

it aint easy to slam Fedor like that, Sambo is no joke.. and Randleman delivered a slam that no other MMA fighter would get up from. I cannot picture Tito slammin' Randleman.. Wrestling has a lot to do with strength and conditioning as well as technique, Randleman is very good when it comes to technique and I give him the edge in S&C as legendary as Tito's conditioning is I only give him a cardio advantage over Randleman, JMO Though.

[killerinstinct]

Originally Posted by Afro Samurai

I dunno, did u see Randleman slam Fedor?

it aint easy to slam Fedor like that, Sambo is no joke.. and Randleman delivered a slam that no other MMA fighter would get up from. I cannot picture Tito slammin' Randleman.. Wrestling has a lot to do with strength and conditioning as well as technique, Randleman is very good when it comes to technique and I give him the edge in S&C as legendary as Tito's conditioning is I only give him a cardio advantage over Randleman, JMO Though.

Yeah Randleman's wrestling is certainly better than Tito's.Randleman was even able to take down Randy Couture.

[Mac]

Originally Posted by Afro Samurai

I dunno, did u see Randleman slam Fedor?

it aint easy to slam Fedor like that, Sambo is no joke.. and Randleman delivered a slam that no other MMA fighter would get up from. I cannot picture Tito slammin' Randleman.. Wrestling has a lot to do with strength and conditioning as well as technique, Randleman is very good when it comes to technique and I give him the edge in S&C as legendary as Tito's conditioning is I only give him a cardio advantage over Randleman, JMO Though.

Yeah, I saw him slam Fedor and he is a strong guy, he just isn't that much over .500. I would think he would have a better record if he was so good.

[Harlem]

Originally Posted by LILMAC

Yeah, I saw him slam Fedor and he is a strong guy, he just isn't that much over .500. I would think he would have a better record if he was so good.

Agreed