2 WK sig bet for wright vs hopkins anyone?

[Atnan]

Originally Posted by JimmyMoore

Ring Magazine's most recent P4P list.

1 Floyd Mayweather 38-0 (24 KOs) Light Middleweight
2 Manny Pacquiao 44-3-2 (35 KOs) Super featherweight
3 Rafael Márquez 37-3 (33 KOs) Super bantamweight
4 Juan Manuel Márquez 47-3-1 (35 KOs) Super featherweight
5 Winky Wright 51-3-1 (25 KOs) Middleweight
6 Jermain Taylor 26-0-1 (17 KOs) Middleweight
7 Bernard Hopkins 47-4-1-1 (32 KOs) Light heavyweight
8 Joe Calzaghe 43-0 (32 KOs) Super middleweight
9 Marco Antonio Barrera 63-5-0-1 (42 KOs) Super featherweight
10 Ricky Hatton 42-0 (30 KOs) Super lightweight

Sorry, I've been busy and shit.

yet again you my friend are a tool....how do you put someone on p4p list when he doesnt FINISH ANY OF HIS FIGHTS let alone HAS NO FUCKING POWER.....he got famous beating BLOWN UP- BALLOONED lightweights....

look at winkys last fights and tell me how the fuck does he get p4p status...

lets look at his last 10 fights

vargas - lost by decision

nobodies - all wins by decision

shane - a natural 135lber - uni dec win

shane - majority decision ( most educated fans had the fight 115-113 shane)

trinidad - a natural 140- c-class at that- uni decision for him- trinidad also came out of retirement for a 9th time lol

sam soliman - uni decision over a tomato can- soliman is as much of a CAN as it gets in boxing...its sad that most edcuated fans had winky winning by 1-2 rounds at most

taylor - first step up in competition ever...drew against a wild swinging noob who got somehow won of a former champ twice while only landing less than a dozen times in both fights...

ike quatery - this fight literally put me to sleep...i think i doze off around 7-8 round...i think it was a uni decision for winky- either way ike was a shell of his former self and should have never recieved a fucking title shot from his LOST to Verron Forrest...

winky doesnt finish his fights let alone hurt any of his opponents....he just goes for the fucking decision...HE IS THE REASON WHY Boxing is in its huge decline and boring to watch....its fans like you that make it even worse by claiming winky is p4p...a winky fan is uneducated and has no idea about the showmanship and business of boxing...

a true p4p boxer is someone like manny pacman who tries his hardest evertime he fights and goes for the kill....or someone like mayweather who fucking shuts out his opponents every time around!

[Afro]

Originally Posted by Atnan

yet again you my friend are a tool....how do you put someone on p4p list when he doesnt FINISH ANY OF HIS FIGHTS let alone HAS NO FUCKING POWER.....he got famous beating BLOWN UP- BALLOONED lightweights....

look at winkys last fights and tell me how the fuck does he get p4p status...

lets look at his last 10 fights

vargas - lost by decision

nobodies - all wins by decision

shane - a natural 135lber - uni dec win

shane - majority decision ( most educated fans had the fight 115-113 shane)

trinidad - a natural 140- c-class at that- uni decision for him- trinidad also came out of retirement for a 9th time lol

sam soliman - uni decision over a tomato can- soliman is as much of a CAN as it gets in boxing...its sad that most edcuated fans had winky winning by 1-2 rounds at most

taylor - first step up in competition ever...drew against a wild swinging noob who got somehow won of a former champ twice while only landing less than a dozen times in both fights...

ike quatery - this fight literally put me to sleep...i think i doze off around 7-8 round...i think it was a uni decision for winky- either way ike was a shell of his former self and should have never recieved a fucking title shot from his LOST to Verron Forrest...

winky doesnt finish his fights let alone hurt any of his opponents....he just goes for the fucking decision...HE IS THE REASON WHY Boxing is in its huge decline and boring to watch....its fans like you that make it even worse by claiming winky is p4p...a winky fan is uneducated and has no idea about the showmanship and business of boxing...

a true p4p boxer is someone like manny pacman who tries his hardest evertime he fights and goes for the kill....or someone like mayweather who fucking shuts out his opponents every time around!

That statement says you dotn know SHIT about boxing

[JimmyMoore]

Originally Posted by Atnan

yet again you my friend are a tool....how do you put someone on p4p list when he doesnt FINISH ANY OF HIS FIGHTS let alone HAS NO FUCKING POWER.....he got famous beating BLOWN UP- BALLOONED lightweights....

look at winkys last fights and tell me how the fuck does he get p4p status...

lets look at his last 10 fights

vargas - lost by decision

nobodies - all wins by decision

shane - a natural 135lber - uni dec win

shane - majority decision ( most educated fans had the fight 115-113 shane)

trinidad - a natural 140- c-class at that- uni decision for him- trinidad also came out of retirement for a 9th time lol

sam soliman - uni decision over a tomato can- soliman is as much of a CAN as it gets in boxing...its sad that most edcuated fans had winky winning by 1-2 rounds at most

taylor - first step up in competition ever...drew against a wild swinging noob who got somehow won of a former champ twice while only landing less than a dozen times in both fights...

ike quatery - this fight literally put me to sleep...i think i doze off around 7-8 round...i think it was a uni decision for winky- either way ike was a shell of his former self and should have never recieved a fucking title shot from his LOST to Verron Forrest...

winky doesnt finish his fights let alone hurt any of his opponents....he just goes for the fucking decision...HE IS THE REASON WHY Boxing is in its huge decline and boring to watch....its fans like you that make it even worse by claiming winky is p4p...a winky fan is uneducated and has no idea about the showmanship and business of boxing...

a true p4p boxer is someone like manny pacman who tries his hardest evertime he fights and goes for the kill....or someone like mayweather who fucking shuts out his opponents every time around!

I'm sorry... I mean thanks for your excessively long reply and everything, but I just cant take you seriously. Also, III didn’t have to make a p4p list. I just posted RING MAGAZINE'S P4P list. You know, the premier boxing magazine...?

[JimmyMoore]

Originally Posted by bradlee180

Rewatch the first Hopkins/Taylor fight as an impartial judge with the sound turned off so you won’t be influenced by biased commentators.

Almost every exchange goes like this: Taylor throws a dynamic, flashy 5 punch combination WHICH DOESN’T LAND because they’re telegraphed although Lamps continues to scream each time, “a big right hand by Taylor!” Hopkins picks off the flashy, telegraphed 5 punch combination on his GLOVES and counters with a single punch that LANDS on Taylor. Over and over again, the same thing throughout the 12 rds: Taylor’s flashy 5 punch combo which DOESN’T LAND, countered by Hopkins’ single shot which DOES LAND. I give those exchanges to Hopkins because he hit the other guy.

I first watch a fight as a fan because being impartial ruins the enjoyment, but if the decision appears controversial, I re-watch and score as an impartial judge. I don’t have my scorecard handy, but I remember I had Hopkins clearly ahead in the first fight.

It’s not 2 lackluster fights for Taylor, it’s 5 lackluster fights in a row. Taylor’s not the goods, fella. Respect to Jermaine Taylor for competing in a tough sport, overcoming lots of adversity, and making it to the top, but he’s really not an elite-level fighter. HBO and Taylor’s management maximized what Taylor does have. Pavlik will KO Taylor if the fight comes off.

Hopkins is a bit like Archie Moore or Jersey Joe Walcott in that he’s hung on to a lot of his skill even at 42 years old, but I’ve been watching Hopkins since he was a contender. Hopkins’ prime was 1996 through 2000 from the age of 31 years old to 35, a late-bloomer. The prime Hopkins was more aggressive, more inclined to take risks, and delivered KO’s, and that Hopkins would’ve KO’d Taylor. Even past-his-prime, I think Hopkins clearly beat Taylor the first time around. Robert Allen said of his 3rd fight in 2004 with Hopkins, “strangely Hopkins doesn’t hit as hard as he used to.” Allen first fought the prime Hopkins in ‘98 and was TKO’d in the rematch in ‘99. The Joe Lipsey annihilation is a memorable moment. Lipsey was undefeated, 25 wins, 20 KO’s. In ’96, the prime Hopkins brutally KO’ed him in 4, and Lipsey NEVER fought again. Unfortunately, many fans never saw the prime Hopkins though it was all on free tv, only seeing him on the big PPV’s which only came AFTER he was past-his-prime.

I didn’t say anything about being swayed by Lampley and company’s commentary. I was swayed by Hopkins not throwing punches for the first half of the fight. In order to win a fight, you gotta throw punches. I don’t have my scorecard either, but I had Jermaine leading by a round and more importantly, so did two of the judges. It was an extremely close fight, but Jermaine won.
No, it’s only two lackluster fights. First, its simply not fair to hold Jermaine accountable for any lack of action in the Hopkins fights. If it weren’t for Jermaine, there wouldn’t have been a fight! And I didn’t think the fight with Winky was lackluster by anyone’s standards. I liked the Hopkins fights too though. I like technical fights.
But you may be right! Jermaine Taylor is certainly not currently an elite level boxer. I just think he still has that potential.

[Harlem]

Originally Posted by Atnan

how do you put someone on p4p list when he doesnt FINISH ANY OF HIS FIGHTS let alone HAS NO FUCKING POWER.....he got famous beating BLOWN UP- BALLOONED lightweights....

Lmao. Your funny, and your posts entertain me, i'll give you that, but if a fighter has no power, but he is constantly winning, and no one can beat him, why the fuck shouldn't he be in the P4P list?

The dudes defense is incredible. Boxing is more than just KO power, all fighters have different styles. IMO, you are being biased because you just don't like like his style.

Correct me if im wrong but doesn't Pacman remind you of a certain Tito style wise? Fast, explosive power, relentless, but, no defense. It just a matter of time my dude, before someone better comes along. Power isn't everything.

IMO, Taylor and Winky will beat Pavlik. They are world class boxers, like em or not.

Spinks is one of the best boxers P4P period, the only thing he's missing is power or he would beat everybody in his division. There is a reason he's the JMW champion of the world, and he's a natural WW; of course he's going to give Taylor problems. Any knowlegable boxing fan would know that. Ouma has a great chin, and is relentless. Yes, he's a B class fighter, and he loss like he was supposed to, but Taylor wasn't going to beat him easy. These are 2 quality opponents for Taylor after coming off fighting 2 of the best P4P boxers in the world. Not bad IMO.

Taylor is great IMO. I don't like him, but he gets the job done, hook are crook. Anybody who can who can even do well enough to pull off a controversial decision against a focused B Hop, and get a draw with the best defender in boxing period (with the exception of PBF) is a great fighter. Give respect where it's due.

[Atnan]

winky is stinky....his fight aganist bhop proved how right i am....how does a p4p fighter gas that baddly...lol all i gotta say is look at the score 116-112, 117-111, 117-111 for bhop.....

i cant wait to hear all the excuses from you fucking nut-huggers!

[Afro]

Originally Posted by Atnan

winky is stinky....his fight aganist bhop proved how right i am....how does a p4p fighter gas that baddly...lol all i gotta say is look at the score 116-112, 117-111, 117-111 for bhop.....

i cant wait to hear all the excuses from you fucking nut-huggers!

god your retarded, the fight was a lot closer then that and you still dont know shit about boxing

[Atnan]

Originally Posted by JimmyMoore

I didn’t say anything about being swayed by Lampley and company’s commentary. I was swayed by Hopkins not throwing punches for the first half of the fight. In order to win a fight, you gotta throw punches. I don’t have my scorecard either, but I had Jermaine leading by a round and more importantly, so did two of the judges. It was an extremely close fight, but Jermaine won.
No, it’s only two lackluster fights. First, its simply not fair to hold Jermaine accountable for any lack of action in the Hopkins fights. If it weren’t for Jermaine, there wouldn’t have been a fight! And I didn’t think the fight with Winky was lackluster by anyone’s standards. I liked the Hopkins fights too though. I like technical fights.
But you may be right! Jermaine Taylor is certainly not currently an elite level boxer. I just think he still has that potential.

i smell you 100%....taylor has lots of potential but you gotta understand hes getting knocked out by kelly!

[Atnan]

Originally Posted by Black Man

god your retarded, the fight was a lot closer then that and you still dont know shit about boxing

awwwww poor babi...your favorite fighter got pwned by a 43 year old boxer...lol cry me a river....you just mad because i was right

[Atnan]

Originally Posted by harlemhustla145

Lmao. Your funny, and your posts entertain me, i'll give you that, but if a fighter has no power, but he is constantly winning, and no one can beat him, why the fuck shouldn't he be in the P4P list?

The dudes defense is incredible. Boxing is more than just KO power, all fighters have different styles. IMO, you are being biased because you just don't like like his style.

Correct me if im wrong but doesn't Pacman remind you of a certain Tito style wise? Fast, explosive power, relentless, but, no defense. It just a matter of time my dude, before someone better comes along. Power isn't everything.

IMO, Taylor and Winky will beat Pavlik. They are world class boxers, like em or not.

Spinks is one of the best boxers P4P period, the only thing he's missing is power or he would beat everybody in his division. There is a reason he's the JMW champion of the world, and he's a natural WW; of course he's going to give Taylor problems. Any knowlegable boxing fan would know that. Ouma has a great chin, and is relentless. Yes, he's a B class fighter, and he loss like he was supposed to, but Taylor wasn't going to beat him easy. These are 2 quality opponents for Taylor after coming off fighting 2 of the best P4P boxers in the world. Not bad IMO.

Taylor is great IMO. I don't like him, but he gets the job done, hook are crook. Anybody who can who can even do well enough to pull off a controversial decision against a focused B Hop, and get a draw with the best defender in boxing period (with the exception of PBF) is a great fighter. Give respect where it's due.

manny is no fucking tito....he doesnt retire when he gets his ass kicked....manny knocks top p4p boxers out

spinks isnt anything special....karamazn and judah both whopped the boys ass in my eyes

taylor is great also...i think he has great potential but i just dont like how he doesnt fucking listen to his trainers and how sloppy he is....

you could say what you want about me but i am end up being right....

bhop whopped winky....and kelly is gonna knock taylor out....plain and simple